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[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thankfully the police can now confiscate any item on you that you can’t prove is yours and how you legally got it.

This is what is wrong. I am not the one that should prove that what I do is legal, it is the police that must prove that what I am doing is illegal.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The trouble with that is it can be very hard to actually prove for known scumbags. I live in a small country and they have a "criminal assets bureau" which can bring folks in massive houses with fancy cars and expensive watches to court and the burden of proof is lower.

It basically boils down to "there's no way this cunt can legally afford all this" then it gets seized.

Before it was created you had criminal kingpins showing up to pick up their dole (social security) weekly while raking in massive money criminally.

It's not abused like that eminent domain thing in the US is though. There's still court required.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know, but my point still stand: someone is innocent until proven guilty.

Seizing somthing only because "there is no way this scumbag can legally afford all this" is nothing different from jailing someone because "there is no way you have not violated some law".
I am not required to justify myself (in this case: paying something with cash accepted by the state), it is police's job to prove that the cash I used is obtained illegally, not mine to prove that it is legal.

I undertand that for 10.000 euros or more it is better to use a bank tranfer to pay, less risks for everyone, but assuming that I am a criminal just because I do it don't really solve the problem.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree generally but this isn't used for small sums. You're talking hundreds of thousands / millions in highly visible ill gotten gains for it to be deployed.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 9 hours ago

I agree generally but this isn’t used for small sums. You’re talking hundreds of thousands / millions in highly visible ill gotten gains for it to be deployed.

Ok, but if you need to have hundreds of thousands / millions in highly visible ill gotten gains before you ask "wait, how he is making all this money without working" you have other problems

And I think 10k is a bullshit amount for this new law. People buy cars second hand all the time with cash fully legit.

Every amount you choose is bullshit. Even in Italy that the limit is 5000, paying under the table is not difficult, you just split the payments.