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US justice department ‘forever’ bars IRS from auditing Trump’s past tax returns
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Kamala choosing genocide and the oligarchy over us led directly to this. Stop scapegoating and enabling them.
I voted for her but I hate the losers that defend her. The whole party basically gave us the finger. Kamala was Trump's biggest ally, she threw the fight.
As opposed to Trump deliberately shitcanning everything possible that helps the common person specifically to enrich his buddies? Openly, I might add, with the supreme court in his back pocket.
Kamala might have been mislead, but Trump is deliberately tearing everything apart.
Trump being shit does not mean kamala is good. Trump isn't the bar.
The point is that kamala being only slightly better than trump is what lead to trump winning. It's also clear that the dems aimed as low as they could on purpose, because they thought they had an easy win and could worry only about their masters holding the leash and not their voters.
It would have been a massive win, all they had to do was tell Israel to fuck off and offer their voters literally anything.
Trump won because the dems chose Israel over us.
Keep blaming voters and watch as the dems refuse to change since they know their media campaign is working.
When voters are asked to make a binary choice (yay 2 party system), there was a clear less bad option.
And they went with the proven worst option anyway.
I never said Kamala was good. But with our two-party system, it was either Kamala or Trump. I would take a shit-filled diaper over Trump.
The 2024 election was a shitshow because Biden suddenly dropped out very close to the actual election, leaving Kamala's team scrambling. There were a ton of people who didn't even know Biden had dropped out. Search trends showed as much.
The system here isn't broken - it's working as intended, to serve the wealthy and shit on the rest of us.
Ya I agree with all that. That's mostly why it frustrates me to see people detract from the real problem by scapegoating the blame onto voters. The voters reacted badly but I'd rather pressure the ones that created the situation.
I'll say it cause someone is going to, might as well keep this discussion going. So your admitting that you want to see the Palestinian people be exterminated? Kamala chose Israel over US, that's why Trump won. A vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide.
Now we have come full circle. Seriously this conversation about Kamala is fruitless. Everyone just let it go. It's the past and we can't change it.
So was a vote for Trump. Genocide on top of unprovoked attacks on multiple other countries.
Yeah it was, you're correct. I was just jumping to the end of the argument cause I've seen it a thousand times and it's just Tankie's trying to be acceleratationists.
People don't seem to know what the word defend means anymore. It's not defending anyone to point out the obvious fact that not voting for Harris was a really stupid thing to have done and is what actually led us here. This routine of "voters aren't responsible for their choices because I didn't like the available choices" has grown extremely tiresome. America had a choice and enough people chose extremely poorly, so generations moving forward will pay for it. We have a right to be pissed about that poor choice.
It's the job of political parties to get votes. They choose their platform. They thought they had an easy win and orchestrated the whole shit show.
Not voting for Harris was stupid, but the fault still lies with the party that chose Israel over you. If you keep enabling, we get the exact same energy next time. They are already trying to push kamala again FFS.
There's such a huge overlap between users that push this and actual Zionists on Lemmy. It wasn't the fuck genocide crowd that's in the wrong but the party that dived into it instead of something sane like universal healthcare. What a fucking joke.
Two things can be true. It can be the democrats' fault also. Which it clearly is. Voters have a responsibility to be informed but they aren't. If anyone is defending anything it's you and your friends defending that ignorance.
I'm not surprised in any way that you implied everyone is a zionist who disagrees with you. That tracks completely.
It's first and foremost the people in charge of the party at fault for losing the election. They are the ones that need to change, not the voters.
This is why I see it as Israeli talking points. It's basically saying "Kamala was right, it's the voters that have to learn to stomach genocide, Israel calling the shots and the kleptocracy in general".
The dems are supposed to be the good guys, yet they saw the low low bar that was trump and decided to aim just above it, and missed. We should be vocal about their fuck up, not giving them a pass. You are defending their actions by scapegoating them away.
So you're directly saying ignorance/zealotry is acceptable.
Absolutely zero people say or think this, and you making it up here shows you cannot be taken seriously. I do not believe you voted for Kamala. That's just your way of trying to obtain credibility.
I'm saying the pro genocide zealotry coming from politicians is the actual problem. Being against genocide is far from ignorance.
I understand pragmatism as much as the next guy, and I did take that route, but you will not catch me dead saying the ones that drew the line at genocide are somehow in the wrong.
The party has to change and they were wrong to push the genocide. It's as easy as that, and you are pushing against that change and encouraging their behavior.
And ya, people don't say it outright but that's exactly what it implies.
There will never be a world in which I can agree that people sacrificing everyone's future, while literally making worse the issue they claim to be prioritizing, is acceptable. It's myopic and idiotic to do that, and saying so implies nothing more than exactly that.
I'm inclined to believe that at least half the people spreading this message aren't that stupid though, but rather bad actors, oftentimes foreign-paid, bad actors.
Literally what the dems did last election, and they orchestrated the situation instead of just reacting to it.
I blame the corrupt politicians instead of ordinary folks making a bad decision, especially when the "bad" decision is the actual moral one (still bad in the scope of things, just morally better). You do you bro.
Interesting that when a small group of people do something, it's horrifying but if millions do it you're okay with it.
It's like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. You choose to blame the guy that was stuck for making the wrong decision instead of the person that literally put the rock there.
The dems could have built a nice little path.
Those millions chose wrong but the small group was actually in charge of designing the choice. And through bribes, apathy and pure hatred, they decided to design the shittiest choice they could come up with. This wasn't something forced on them like it was on the voters, and worse, they were the ones forcing it on the voters.
There's a chaine of events here and you are choosing to ignore it.
No, that's what protest voters did and I will always hate them for doing that.
The protest voters came after the dems turned an election into a circus with a side of genocide.
That's what I mean by chaine of events, the protest voters ignoring etc and making mistakes came after the dems deliberate actions.
Doesn't make the voter behavior any less shitty
Nope, it doesn't. That being said, there's a group of people that essentially paid the dems to lose last election, and they don't want to be seen as the problem that they are.
Blaming and shaming voters only helps that group. It doesn't help us, it doesn't help democracy, it doesn't help the party. Alienating isn't the best way to make them vote either. Tbh, it shouldn't be up to them to cave first when it's about genocide in any case.
It's misspent energy and detracts from the pressure that the party should be facing. It's as I said, a scapegoat built to avoid having to change.
Taking up for those douches doesn't help anything either. There's basically nothing we can do besides be informed and vote like we are. Which brings us back to my original point. If protests worked on this scale, they probably would have already. America is basically fucked and we fucked ourselves. I expect politicians to suck. But I don't expect millions to choose country-suicide. Anything over 10% voting for this (or not against it) is extremely concerning. We're SO far over that mark. And it would never happen if people were as educated as we think we are. All of this makes more sense when you realize some huge amount of adults are functionally illiterate. It's so fucking sad and enraging how badly we've all been failed and failed ourselves.
It only would have been moral if even the simplest of minds couldn't have foreseen what their action would lead to. They could have but refused to, thereby accepting full culpability.
The US doesn't have political parties. It has a morality test that asks you to pick between harm reduction, psychopathy, and apathy. Most people pick apathy.
Ya, it just feels like people would rather punch down than actual try to get the system to change a bit. Feels like pissing in the wind to go after voters, they aren't the root cause.
Edit: I'm getting downvoted by zeroconnections alt accounts (fedded and robo)
What are you doing to change the system, other than complaining on a niche corner of the Internet
Not punching down and trying to hold the actual root cause responsible.