this post was submitted on 17 May 2026
434 points (96.6% liked)

Progressive Politics

4617 readers
782 users here now

Welcome to Progressive Politics! A place for news updates and political discussion from a left perspective. Conservatives and centrists are welcome just try and keep it civil :)

(Sidebar still a work in progress post recommendations if you have them such as reading lists)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

I don't know.. why is medical care so expensive in the first place? Why are teachers wages so low? Why is there such a huge wealth disparity?
Seems like these are systematic problems which need to be solved with a full system restructuring rather than throwing money at it. Not to dunk on Bernie, but If I were American, I'd be hoping for more concrete solutions.
5% tax sounds nice (imo, its no where near nice enough lol) but what are we taxing here exactly? Billionaires don't actually have any money. There's a systematic problem to solve right there.. how can people be filthy rich, yet have no actual money to tax?

Like this, a very 'American idea' to me is 'student loan forgiveness'. You borrow money from a bank (for profit institution), you pay it to get educated at a university (for profit institution) and get the loan forgiven by the government (tax payers). Systematic problem. Just make universities public and they get funded by the tax payers directly.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I get your misgivings but... Changing it for the better has gotta start somewhere.

Even this idea is way too "progressive" to have any chance of coming to pass

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Just make universities public and they get funded by the tax payers directly.

Public universities are cheaper than private, but still too expensive to pay for using saving from a minimum wage summer job. There is no doubt that tuition costs are inflated, but the idea of how you make schools charge less money is complicated.

The Trump administration is claiming that reducing the amount of money students are allowed to borrow from the government will somehow force universities to lower their costs. In reality it's simply creating a bigger divide in education based on socioeconomic factors, and increasing the amount of private debt students are forced to take on if their family cannot cover the cost of tuition.

Universities in the U.S. are typically portrayed by the right as elitist and left-wing institutions that exist to indoctrinate young minds with marxist ideas. However, many of the right's most vocal "anti-elitists" (Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance, Adrian Vermeule, even Donald Trump himself) hold degrees from the most prestigious institutions within the United States.

Despite their leftists reputation, the board of trustees that actually govern public and private higher learning institutions in the U.S., are often made up of wealthy and well connected right-leaning individuals.

In Bed with the Right does a really good podcast episode on Boards of Trustees, but my main point is that (as is the case with the majority of problems in the U.S.), when you ask a question like "why does it have to be so expensive/complicated?" The answer is that these overly complicated systems are often not a consequence of incompetence or poor planning. They're the very intentional results of a country that has been locked in a never ending struggle between democracy and oligarchy since the very beginning.

It's no accident that the changes Trump is making will not result in universities suddenly offering cheaper tuition, or students taking on less debt to get an education. It's the system working as it was intended. It just makes it more believable to have an incompetent buffoon serving as the public face behind "failed" policy.

Many of the poorest and uneducated Americans voted for him, and they make for great photo ops when they cheer loudly at his rallies. Many of the wealthiest Americans with degrees from the "elite" institutions he so often attacks, were the ones who quietly invested their own money and paid for those rallies.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

5% tax sounds nice (imo, its no where near nice enough lol) but what are we taxing here exactly? Billionaires don't actually have any money. There's a systematic problem to solve right there.. how can people be filthy rich, yet have no actual money to tax?

I believe most of billionaire's wealth are in intangible assets like stocks. Then I hear billionaires and their bootlickers defend themselves, by reasoning that the government can't tax those intangibles unless the investors sell the shares and cash in on the gains. However, Ireland already tax those with unrealised gains from investment funds every eight years. There is no reason for other countries not to follow suit.

[–] atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

Yeah the underlying problems have to do with market power granted by certain laws and the systemic prevention of competition. In land markets there’s massive amounts of money going into keeping us from building more housing so that owners in scarce locations can stay rich. Land value taxes would solve that.