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Do you have advice as to where to find hardware to practice? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 month ago by TotallyWorthLife@lemmy.world to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Had several old PCs over the years from relatives, but either gave them to other people or threw them to the trash because I didn't see the usefulness back then...

Right now all I have is my PC (which I guess I could put VMs on), and maybe a few phones (maybe just because they kinda are there like backup phones), which I couldn't find how to root, if these are of any use with unrooted Termux.

Do you have any advice about it? Should I start with my PC with VMs? An unrooted phone with Termux? Try to look somewhere that is gonna get rid of PCs or something? If so, where?

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you are running a non home version of Windows you could install the Hyper-V services on your computer and start with VMs that way.
Another option is VMware Workstation/Fusion now that it is free again, or Virtual Box by Oracle.

That is what I did for a while. A Debian VM with 2 CPUs MD 8Gb of ram to start playing around with Docker before getting a Pi.

You don't mention where you are from so apart from eBay there isn't really much else to go with.

[–] TotallyWorthLife@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Another option is VMware Workstation/Fusion now that it is free again, or Virtual Box by Oracle.

Oh, it is again? Thanks for letting me know!

That is what I did for a while. A Debian VM with 2 CPUs MD 8Gb of ram to start playing around with Docker before getting a Pi.

Will try this out, then, thank you for the advice! Since I got my PC on ethernet, but still got a network card with WiFi that I don't really use for anything, I could set it up so the Wifi card acts as part of the VM as a different computer in the network, instead of having to configure the same connection both for my PC and the VM, right?

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You don't need to use a dedicated card for networking, assuming you have a PC from the last decade the hardware is smart enough to share the NIC.

I bridge my ethernet NIC between Windows and my Hyper-V VMs and everything talks just fine.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He'd be better off with a bare metal implementation like Proxmox.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Hyper V is bare metal. Hyper V is a type one hypervisor. The hyper v kernel runs under the windows kernel, when you run hyper v, the windoss you interact with is transparently converted into a VM, with all devices passed through to it.

Anyway the tools to manage hyper v aren't anywhere near as mature compared to proxmox and it's a pain when you hit corner cases so I wouldn't recommend it, BUT it is a type 1, highly performant hypervisor.