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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 130 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Alternate headline: Money talks, allows immunity to traffic laws.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (13 children)

If this were true they wouldn't have enacted any legislation at all (which was the status quo before this). The next step should be to use the data gained from ticketing these robot taxis to determine the rate of infraction and hold the the company accountable when that legislation is ready. I. E. Corp has broken the law X number of times and each infraction equals a penalty, x number of penalties means revoking of license to operate robot taxi service in state etc.

We all know that fining corps isn't something that actually works because they just consider it part of their operating cost, so the goal should be to prevent them from operating altogether if their product can't adhere to traffic laws.

Also, I think perhaps it might be worth it to license these vehicles differently. A commercial license of some kind because individuals can't be held accountable (because either the people operating them or observing them aren't in the same country, or because there isn't a vehicle operator at all).

[–] myplacedk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We all know that fining corps isn't something that actually works because they just consider it part of their operating cost, so the goal should be to prevent them from operating altogether if their product can't adhere to traffic laws.

You could say the same thing about human, but that still works.

1: Make the fines big enough to matter, but without making then prohibitively big for small companies.

2: Too many fines result in revoking permission. This doesn't have to be on company level, the company could group the cars by model or something.

The numbers can be discussed, but this is the framework the legal system is used to, and I don't see what it wouldn't work, other than lobbyism.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You could say the same thing about human, but that still works.

Here's the thing. It demonstrably doesn't work because we don't do any of the things you listed. That's why parking tickets only work on poor people and rich people view them as just the fee to park where ever they want.

Which is exactly what I was alluding to but you seem to want to take it as if I have no earthly idea how to make it better when the point wasn't about fining them. The point is there's a better way and it starts with gathering data to use to basically revoke their license to operate their business and their taxis in the state. Because that's a better outcome altogether than a stupid fine. The money from the fine might enrich the state but it won't bring back someone's kid.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be cited. I'm not saying they shouldn't face repercussions. I'm not saying they aren't dangerous or that I think they should be allowed to do whatever they want with no consequences.

I'm saying there's a difference between what was happening vs what is happening now and I'm acknowledging that this difference isn't enough but it's not nothing.

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