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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Labour are been utterly ridiculous at the moment, reform are not inevitable, labour's handling of the situation has pushed people towards reform.

Starmer keeps dancing to Nigel Farage's tune, of course he's losing. Starmer is constrained by reality, Farage can say whatever the hell he wants regardless of how completely impractical it is. Why are Labour's strategists so stupid that they can't see that?

As soon as Labour got into power they started going on about small boats and the "immigration crisis" rather than pointing to all the benefits of immigration. The racists are always going to vote for reform but there's plenty of reform voters who are just misinformed, so why not attempt to educate them and demonstrate that just because Nigel says so, doesn't necessarily mean it's true. But noooo, apparently it's much better to just pander to the right wing end of the party, even though that's literally never worked. Larry the Cat could take over from Labour strategists and the quality of policies would go comparatively sky high.

[–] makingrain@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People have voted on immigration as a priority for decades and have been ignored. It's no surprise that this is happening with Reform rush.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The problem is that policy doesn't work. The economy is built on the assumption that there will always be low wage workers around to do the jobs British nationals won't do.

Every western economy has always used workers from poorer economies as the base workforce. If reform implement their ill-thoughtout draconian immigration policies they just won't come here. Which of course will cause a crisis that reform will predictably try and solve by forcing prisoners and anyone on benefits to do the work, and just like that you have debtors prison again.

[–] makingrain@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I didn't mention any policy.

Western economies didn't always rely on foreigner workers from "poor counties", you've made a huge assumption. Always? Laughable.

However, that's not true. We brain drain poorer countries for their doctors and nurses, whilst our graduates struggle to find work. We import foreigners to work in care homes, which is a private industry but the scale is mad different to how it used to be. Do you have any examples?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah exactly. We don't pay our NHS workers enough money that isn't a societal failing that is a political decision Reform won't help with that, they will privatise the NHS and make the situation 100 million times worse do not vote for them unless you are in favour of societal collapse.

[–] yes_this_time@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Using workers from poorer countries as their workforce" Yikes. Doesn't sound too great.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

It's the world you live in. Who do you think picks the crops?