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cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/subnautica2/p/2040327/subnautica-2-is-steam-deck-verified
Subnautica 2 Is Steam Deck Verified
Link to verification:
https://store.steampowered.com/verified/1962700/Subnautica_2The community manager has also mentioned that Subnautica 2 is Handheld Optimized on the ROG Xbox Ally.
Seeing that a title is "Steam Deck verified" is meaningless. There are countless instances in which a title that is a broken mess on Steam Deck is given the verified tag for some reason, yet some other title that operates just fine on Steam Deck is tagged as unsupported. A much more accurate metric is ProtonDB. The official "Steam Deck compatibility" rating system is worthless.
It is not worthless. Steam Deck verified does not mean the game runs perfectly fine. The bugs and performance of the game is not what the verification is meant for. Does the game run on Steam Deck the same as if it was running on Windows? If yes, then its verified. If the game runs buggy and has performance issues on Windows too, then its not the fault of the Proton translation layers.
I think lot of people misunderstand what the verification means. If you click the icon you showed us in your meme, then you would see the bulletpoints with explanation what makes it to be a verified game.
Absolutely nothing about comparing to a Windows build.
With your logic, a game would need to ship a Windows build in order to achieve "Steam Deck verified", and any title that only ships a Linux build is automatically disqualified. But that is not how the certification system works. It is certifying that the title runs well on Steam Deck according to these few arbitrary criteria. That is it.
If the game is an absolute broken unplayable mess on Steam Deck, but at least the controller icons match, the text is legible, etc., Valve will certify it. You will not want to play it because it it is a buggy mess, but at least it got a green check!
On the other hand, ProtonDB is more granular about allowing actual users to lay out what problems a game may have. It is just a more transparent system that is actually usable as a metric to determine how well a title is likely to run on Steam Deck.
Proton is running Windows build. Its about running the game as if it was running it with Windows. If the game would run 25 fps on Steam Deck with Windows, that's about what you would expect to run with Steam Deck verified as well.
??? I am talking about the bugs and performance issue of a game, specifically comparing its Windows to Proton, not native Linux builds. I am not talking about the ENTIRE Steam Deck verified badge, but about the issue you raised and said it would be worthless because of it.
What is the "ENTIRE" Steam Deck verified badge? That is indeed what I am referring to and calling worthless: the badge that you see on the Steam page for a given title. The badge that in no way compares how well the title runs relative to the same title on Windows.
I am not saying that a game is worthless if it has the verified badge. I am saying that the badge itself is worthless because it has often been placed on broken garbage before. It is not a good indicator as to how well the game operates on Steam Deck, which is the one thing that it is supposed to do. Sure, there are plenty of games with the badge that everyone agrees works great on Steam Deck! But there are also plenty of verified games that do not work well.
The entire badge is, all points that make up a verified badge. I was just talking about the point you brought up with
which was your initial argument. And that is what I was referring to with my reply, not all the other stuff that was talked after the reply (which I do not disagree at all).
Stop comparing to Windows. That is not the purpose of the badge. It is not a "How accurately does Proton translate this game?" badge, it is a "How well does this game run on Steam Deck?" badge. Plain and simple. Read the bullet points. Nothing is calling out Windows or Proton.
If a game only ships a Windows build, then great, Valve will run that through Proton and run testing to determine whether or not it deserves the badge. But they are not going to compare that performance to the native Windows performance. For the sake of the badge, that comparison doesn't matter. All they care about is how it is running on default settings on a Steam Deck.
If a game ships a Linux build, then that will be the default experience for Steam Deck users, and that will be what Valve evaluates to determine whether or not it deserves the badge.
As said, I am not talking about every point, just about the performance and the buggy games. If the game is buggy on Windows and runs at 28 fps on a comparable system using Windows, then it can still get a verified badge on Steam Deck. I am not saying they compare it to the Windows build, but rather that performance and buggy game behavior is not the deciding factor if a game gets verified badge. If a game is badly optimized, runs like shit and has bugs, it can still get verified badge. As this is how the game is intended to be played across the board.
Also I am ONLY talking about these points, as your initial reply was only about that. Not how accurately Proton translates this game as a whole. I think I made that clear now.
And that is precisely why the badge is worthless. As a consumer, if I see that badge, I should be able to assume that the game is going to run well using default settings. But in reality, seeing that badge tells me nothing about how well the game runs.
Conversely, if I check the ProtonDB page for that same buggy verified game, users on ProtonDB will actually call out that it is a buggy mess and that it does not run well. And I will know that I should not buy it, or that I will have to put in extra effort to get it to work well.