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Forests are not necessarily the most diverse and natural ecosystem in certain regions. When you go back time with a similar climate to today and no humans, you would have had straight tusk elephants, some of the largest the world has ever seen in what is today Germany. Add to that Irish elk, which 4.5m from bottom to the top of the antlers tall and European forms of lions, leopards and rhinos.
These species would have kept Germany a much more open landscape, with some forested areas, but still open grassland. That is why a lot of native species require open grassland to survive. For example the bustard does not live in forests, but so do many insects. They often survived thanks to pastures keeping land somewhat open.
That is also true for many other parts of the world. Although Europe is hit worse then other places, you used to have elephant species basically everywhere, were humans live today for example.