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submitted 11 months ago by chakan2@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

There was an article earlier about people smoking crack if they thing Trump is up 10 points.

Well...he's up 10 points. The Democrats need to do something fairly drastic soon if they want to win 24.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bernie wouldn't have won the last election. I'd have been happy with him. I really kinda hoped for Warren. But if I recall correctly, Bernie lost more in black votes than he gained in youth votes. And in a general, being able to pin the word socialist (you and I know social democrat isn't the same, but the electorate is short on nuance) on him would've lost a huge chunk of the middle.

Yes, the DNC fucked Bernie and I was pissed all the way to the election, but once the results were in it was clear to me that they did the right thing because Bernie would've lost and we would've had another Trump administration and that might've ended democracy right there. Young people were never going to come out in unimaginable droves in the general if they wouldn't in the primaries. I want it to be different than it is, and I'm glad young voting is trending up because the future belongs to you folks, but it's not enough yet to pretend you can ignore the base of voters that would be pushed across the aisle.

I mean feel free to argue with me. Post proof of how I'm wrong because I'd like to be, but I don't think so.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago

Bernie has tremendous support in the deindustrialized parts of America, which is where Trump is strongest. That would have thrown everything up in the air and the outcome is uncertain. We'll never know now, I guess.

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