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Note: Judging by the comments, a lot of people are obviously not reading the post and are instead assuming we are calling for defederation of lemmy.world. That is not the case, and in fact the opposite is true. LW already temporarily defederated anarchist.nexus once, and the evidence suggests Mr Kaplan is now pushing for full defederation of all the FAF instances. We are trying to build a coalition of instances that will agree to defederate from lemmy.world IF Kaplan goes ahead with the defederation. Apologies if you weren't aware of the context.
🏴☠️ Hoist the Black Flag: Pledge to Boycott Lemmy World!
... if Lemmy World dares to defederate from any ship in the Fediverse Anarchist Flotilla - https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/, https://anarchist.nexus/, and https://quokk.au/.
Mateys, we can’t let a mega‑instance captain bully the rest of the fleet just because their ship’s bigger. If Lemmy World tries to throw the FAF overboard, we’re calling for a show of solidarity: a fediverse blockade of Lemmy World in response, until the landlubbers see reason (i.e., there is an acceptable change in their leadership and/or this policy).
This is about mutual aid, not mutiny - standing together so no single admin gets to rule the seas unchallenged. A united armada of smaller instances can absolutely blunt Lemmy World’s outsized influence (and, let’s be honest, their ego).
☠️ A word to the captains: before hoisting colours or locking in a course, we ask ye to let your crew have their say. Run a poll, open the deck for discussion, and listen to the voices aboard your vessel. These seas belong to all of us, and decisions that shape our fediverse should be made together, not from the captain’s quarters alone.
If other captains be keen to chart this course with us, drop anchor and make the pledge public in the comments. The more hands on deck, the harder it is to sink any one of us. Let us know if you are holding a vote!
dbzer0 and AN members can vote on this pledge in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com, and quokk.au will be holding their own vote.
🏴☠️ Solidarity forever, and fair winds to the Flotilla!
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That would depend on who you ask. If you’re asking me, centralised nodes are a bad place to be. It’s like choosing to disproportionately concentrate copious power in the hands of a few. But most users have enough engagement greed to follow the crowd and go where most other people are, thus feeding into the network effect. Cloudflare abuses its power, so I will not feed it.
Cloudflare is where they are hosting, correct?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding the issue here, but wouldn't any Lemmy instance with any amount of scale necessarily be centralized to some degree? If not Cloudflare, than some other provider would be the point of contention.
I don't want to let perfect be the enemy of good, so I'm willing to accept some negatives. I think the more important factor is if the instance aligns with my values and the administration team are reasonable, and so far both seem to be true for me.
CF is not a hosting provider. Wherever the website is hosted, Cloudflare masks that from us, which is another separate problem because we don’t even have enough transparency to know who else is in the loop. If an admin chooses CF as a proxy, then from that decision you can expect them to have no hesitation about licking the boots of Amazon, MS, or Google for hosting service.
CF is a man-in-the-middle who intercepts all traffic. They hold the keys, thus creating a deception with browser padlocks. The browser shows you a padlock which implies that you have a secure tunnel, but in fact the tunnel terminates at Cloudflare where all traffic is seen in the clear. From there, you have no way of knowing if the traffic is fully exposed between Cloudflare and the host.
Scale is the wrong goal. It’s antithetical to decentralisation. Cloudflare brings the most muscle to the table, and enables an instance to grow disproportionately and out of control. A non-CF node gives some measure of confidence that an instance is not planning to get greedy with accummulating power through disproportionate scale.
This is not that sort of scenario. There is neither “good” nor “perfect” with Cloudflare. Just enshitification and harm to netneutrality.
For what? It’s a stupid trade. You elevate tyranny and corporate oppression for what? You cannot even claim to have good uptime (the theoretical selling point of CF) because of how often Cloudflare falls over. Even if Cloudflare would one day eventually sort out its availability issues, it will still be a foolish trade-off.
Well if using technofeudal bullying fiefdoms like CF aligns with your values, you may be in the right place. For me, if a fedi instance is inside Cloudflare’s walled-garden, I instantly know without further checking that the admins are out of alignment with my values and decentralization principles. It’s a time-saver when short listing prospective nodes to register on. It also helps me shortlist where to post.