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I refuted this with point 1. You can complain that it is unfair, but you have no alternative, just grievances. What? Do you want us to do dressed-up literacy tests like had been used to further-marginalize minorities for so long in America? For our trouble, we would get the grand accomplishment of giving tremendously disproportionate power to the fucking lanyards who, surprise surprise, don't actually want pro-social policy just because they score far above the average in their awareness of the policies of candidates and so on, and in many cases score far above you.
Who writes and evaluates the tests? Whatever you claim the answer is, the ultimate answer is "bureaucrats," because a ruling minority who gets to decide the terms of qualifying for being in the ruling minority is a bureaucracy, and the majority being able to decide and re-decide the terms will, on the basis of class interests, will come to reflect the ruling class's interests.
Maybe political equality is unfair, but so is the inexorable march of entropy. It's a cost of existing in the real world and not being able to just wave a wand to make things however you personally want with magic.
I refuted this line of argument with point 2, which you never even attempted to address. The ruling ideological paradigm is backwards and most people follow one of the manifold versions of still just supporting rancid neoliberals or theocrats. You have failed to make any attempt to understand why this is the case beyond the most intellectually lazy and epistemically worthless and elitist conclusion:
Your position is indefensibly reactionary, and being able to point at people making foolish or false claims is just completely failing to understand the terms of the argument in favor of saying their souls are wrong and yours is better. Until you make a more serious attempt to understand why people are the way they are (and no, it's not their inherent inferiority to you), you are just going to be making the same arguments that heinous supremacists have made since the written word was invented.
What books? What history? You clearly are no Marxist, nor an anarchist, nor do you seem to have a grasp of "all of the history" or you'd understand that technocracy is a farcical dead end, just like all of these misanthropic screeds.
And I'm sick of people mistaking Idiocracy for serious political analysis, but we can't always get what we want.
As kind of an aside, besides all the other issues with complaining about the "stupidity of the masses" and so on, you're also missing that intelligence has very little to do with it because you don't need to be a policy wonk to support better policy, and in fact most people who support better policy aren't policy wonks (and for several major policies, this includes most Americans!). The fundamental difference between you and them isn't that you're so much smarter, it's that you were met with conditions that pushed you against the status quo. We can make some tedious argument about the precise threshold is affected by intelligence, but it's missing the forest for the trees, the forest in this analogy being that humans are continuously shaped and re-shaped by their circumstances.
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I and basically everyone on this site ARE smarter than most people and I have no problem owning that. I can read at a high school level just for starters.
Also if we are relying on people to fall into conditions to push them our of Capitalist thinking... no wonder ML parties have 0 successes in the west.
I want the system China has. No direct elections over party leadership, but many layers of party positions where the people can choose their local reps, and the reps have to PROVE they are competent leaders by doing good work, producing results, and studying advanced Marxism to move up the ranks. This is a Meritocracy seeded with people that the local voters want to represent them. I like this system.
The system we have now is a marketing farce where there is a multi-billion dollar industry dedicated to share vapid emotional appeals to elect the dumbest people to go to Congress, get Aipac money and piss and moan about Hasan Piker.
Where is this "soul" crap coming from? I said people are stupid and no matter how much word salad you want to serve you are not erasing decades of real life experience that proves to me over thousands of interactions that I'm right. Go work a week in any customer facing job and then claim that the masses are somehow enlightened when most of them can't read past a 6th grade level!
This debate bro speak is obnoxious. Cut it out
You don't know me and you don't get to define who I am.
I have enough knowledge to know the only thing that ever works at gaining power is violence and war. This idealist notion that we can just talk our way to Socialism is short-sighted. Nice to imagine but not real life. The problem you will run into quickly is that people in general are not logical creatures. They're emotional ones. And the way leftists in general and especially ones on ML sites is... cringe. I want to like you people because we share some views but the more I am here the more I realize the electoralist, social Democratic end is where I belong.