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T490s 178€ https://www.ebay.de/itm/389888983494
If you want something smaller you can go with something like a 12.5" X280 for 139€ https://www.ebay.de/itm/157675751432
If you spend a few days actually looking for good deals and auctions you can get them for even cheaper.
These are very decent laptops and if you break anything its gonna cost very little time and money to repair them. They have multiple USBC 3.1 ports with displayport support. The keyboards on thinkpads have been known for decades for their quality too so there really isnt much to complain about unless you are trying to do anything crazy compute intensive like rendering video.
Oh no yeah, I don’t doubt you can find them. I was saying it’s absurd you don’t find yourself lucky. Also the idea that someone looking for a laptop has to be looking for the absolute bare minimum, technically usable laptop. In that narrow scope, Framework (and also every other manufacturer) doesn’t make sense
Lmao "bare minimum" this is literally the industry standard laptop series you will see in companies everywhere in the world. Ive probably seen 10 of these at work today. Your reference frame is wrong. 99% of people just want a reliable portable computer that runs a browser, office and coding software.