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So, hundreds of millions, perhaps a few billion pawns die, governments collapse, new technofascist governments rise, or...

The global South, Eastern Bloc somehow pulls off saving whatever remains and the board is reset? Is that how this plays out?

These are certainly interesting times. ¡Viva la Revolución!

Crosspost from https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11435977

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All the part about russian history is why I think what I think . If you have another prepesctive about why Putin mention Russian history in the topic of Ukraine please tell me

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm asking you to refute or add missing context, for several hours now and you refuse. Please do so, because all I can fathom is dishonesty+Bandarism/emotions/some other ulterior motive, and I've gone out of my way for hours to try to understand your perspective, which you refuse to clarify in any form or fashion, rather just keep repeating yourself and circumlocute, which hardly inspires confidence in your motives.

Because honest history doesn't happen in a vacuum.

I have no problem admitting Columbus was a filthy imperialist and my state was built on the genocide of aboriginal people, chattel slavery, Jim Crow. Please reciprocate, concede, or simply drop the matter. I'm busy.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only dishonnest person here is you . I answered all your arguments while you refuse to answer questions that may change my mind

Omitting the fact that an ukranian identity before joining a russian kingdom and talking about Russisn history which is irelevant to me is refuting the idea that Putin invasion was mere self defense or to fight nazis and any other bullshit. The worst nazi right now is Israel when is Putin going to save palestinians instead of tsking pride that the ussr was one of the first country to recognize the terrorist state of Israel

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only dishonnest person here is you . I answered all your arguments while you refuse to answer questions that may change my mind.

Holy shit, I've answered all of them.

Omitting the fact that an ukranian identity before joining a russian kingdom and talking about Russisn history which is irelevant to me is refuting the idea that Putin invasion was mere self defense or to fight nazis and any other bullshit

Are you a Bandarite, yes or no?

The worst nazi right now is Israel when is Putin going to save palestinians instead of tsking pride that the ussr was one of the first country to recognize the terrorist state of Israel.

Israel isn't on Russia doorstep. Nazi Ukraine is.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy shit, I’ve answered all of them.

You didn't answer shit. Those are the question again

Why did it wait for 2021 to fight the neo Nazis? Why Putin talks about Ukrainian identity not existing claiming they are simply Russian? Why Putin keep talking about shared identity with Israel the worst type of Nazis today?

Putin is a long friend of Israel

Sharon said Putin is a true Israel's friend. In 2011 Putin said "Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It's apparent that more than half of the population speaks Russian"

During Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that "I support Israel's battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected"

In August 2014, Russia began increasing fruit imports from Israel, after banning food imports from the EU, Norway, United States, Canada and Australia.

In a meeting with Netanyahu in June 2016, Putin described Israel and Russia as "unconditional allies" in "efforts to counter international terrorism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations

Are you a Bandarite, yes or no?

No

Israel isn’t on Russia doorstep. Nazi Ukraine is.

Nazi Ukraine never attacked Russia. Like I said if nazis within Ukraine is not attacking foreign countries it is an Ukraine problem not a Russian one .

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nazi Ukraine never attacked Russia.

Neither did Israel, except in the 70s. They suffered badly, for it.

Like I said if nazis within Ukraine is not attacking foreign countries it is an Ukraine problem not a Russian one.

It was attacking Russians who never agreed to be Ukraine. We see it differently.

Why did it wait for 2021 to fight the neo Nazis?

Because it was seeking diplomatic solutions. Who first broke Minsk agreement? Russia was damned either way. They waited until they couldn't.

Why Putin keep talking about shared identity with Israel...

1.5 million Russians in Israel, probably.

During Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that "I support Israel's battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected"

Putin is a long friend of Israel

Sharon said Putin is a true Israel's friend. In 2011 Putin said "Israel is, in fact, a special state to us. It is practically a Russian-speaking country. Israel is one of the few foreign countries that can be called Russian-speaking. It's apparent that more than half of the population speaks Russian"

During Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Putin stated that "I support Israel's battle that is intended to keep its citizens protected"

We're definitely in agreement, here. He should have hardened his heart against the 1.5 million Russians in Israel, which is, imo, probably why.

In August 2014, Russia began increasing fruit imports from Israel, after banning food imports from the EU, Norway, United States, Canada and Australia.

Any of those were a bargain with the devil. I speculate again it was for the Russian Israelis' sake. Why do you think so?

Thanks for answering. I really appreciate it.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Neither did Israel, except in the 70s. They suffered badly, for it.

Russia signed the geneva and genocide convention it is an obligation to act against israel at least economically . As opposed to deal with the nazis in ukraine who did not attack another country

1.5 million Russians in Israel, probably. Any of those were a bargain with the devil. I speculate again it was for the Russian Israelis’ sake. Why do you think so?

They decided to live in a country still doing settler colonialism . It is not something to be proud of and shouldn't care about their safety

Because it was seeking diplomatic solutions. Who first broke Minsk agreement? Russia was damned either way. They waited until they couldn’t.

The mink agreement has no clause saying if Ukraine breach it, Russia has the right to invade. Russia could do economical pressure instead.

Why Putin talks about Ukrainian identity not existing claiming they are simply Russian?

This is the most important question

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth -2 points 2 weeks ago

Russia signed the geneva and genocide convention it is an obligation to act against israel at least economically . As opposed to deal with the nazis in ukraine who did not attack another country

Did they? I thought they didn't? Please refresh my memory with a link?

They decided to live in a country still doing settler colonialism . It is not something to be proud of and shouldn't care about their safety.

I'm not sure they were aware of how badly this would turn out, although I'm not going to dispute this. Russian or Israeli, choose. The Russians in Ukraine weren't given the choice. It was their land.

The mink agreement has no clause saying if Ukraine breach it, Russia has the right to invade. Russia could do economical pressure instead.

Once one party to a contract is in breach, the other party is not legally bound. What good are Russian sanctions when the West simply does what it wants? Including sanction Russia?

These two things may look similar, but they are not the same.