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But roundabout require people to think and interact with the traffic! We want to drive fast, but stupid.
i think the average american would die of shock if they came to visit me. just to get through town (as in just passing by) requires navigating on average 9 to 11 roundabouts, and that's on an E-road.
it's pretty obvious when using google maps for navigation that they don't really "get" roundabouts. it pipes up "take the second exit" in every roundabout where you need to go straight through.
We've had roundabouts all over the place for 20+ years at this point. I genuinely don't get why people still struggle so much with them.
But fwiw my town also requires several roundabouts to get through and it’s not very big. And almost every time an intersection needs work, we get a new roundabout.
However I actually do like the way the directions work in maps where it says “take the x exit” because a ton of roads aren't well marked in roundabouts, and there are some weird but decently common situations where the exit you'd think you need is not the right one. Thats just sort of what happens when you are retrofitting everything, and have space constraints.
but i mean, it doesn't say "continue straight" in every interchange. i don't know how other countries do it but we have being able to navigate by signage as a mandatory part of driving tests and it's always understood that no instructions given means "continue on your current course".
Sometimes my GPS will be like "go left up here," but left is actually straight and right is the exit. I think it's just seeing if I'm still awake.
Same in medellin. Any big intersection is a roundabout. It really helps ease the traffic jams or as the locals call them “tacos”.
The more progressive and more well-planned small towns and cities around the US have actually been building out roundabouts for the better part of a decade now. When I go visit my parents in suburban Washington I go through 4 or 5 roundabouts between the highway and their house. Turns out you can get the majority of suburban Americans on board with a roundabout if you just point out that it means they probably won't have to stop and idle anymore. Also, usually cheaper.
Hmm how suspiciously Milton Keynes of you....
I have mastered the Swindon Magic Roundabout.
I can take on anything now.
Magic roundabout not a problem.
Spiral roundabouts are constantly mis signed and are a menace if you've not driven them ten times already.
I mean... the second exit is usually going straight. So that makes sense. First exit would be a right turn (or left in the UK)
point being, they don't announce "keep going straight" at normal intersections