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Conservative and Bloc Québécois MPs are calling on the Liberals to follow through on a trade co-operation framework with Taiwan after the territory's envoy to Canada said Ottawa halted the process suddenly.

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A senior Canadian diplomat said last week it's up to cabinet to decide how to move forward on the agreement, which he suggested is almost ready for a signature.

"The government is considering the timing and the nature of moving forward on it," Weldon Epp, the assistant deputy minister at Global Affairs Canada who oversees diplomacy in the Indo-Pacific, told the House foreign affairs committee on Thursday.

"I fully expect there will be decisions taken before too long on moving forward."

He was speaking after Taiwan's de facto ambassador Harry Tseng told Radio-Canada in a February report that the framework had been ready to be signed since April of last year.

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Tseng, head of Taipei's Economic and Cultural Office in Canada ... told Radio-Canada negotiating teams had initialled every page of the document. He said he suspected the Canadian government was stalling in order to improve relations with mainland China at Taiwan's expense.

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At last week's committee meeting, Bloc MP Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe accused the government of dragging its feet.

"It's an agreement that doesn't bring any risk," he said in French. "The only valid reason right now for why we are not signing the agreement is simply because we do not want to upset Beijing."

Conservative foreign affairs critic Michael Chong said the Tories want Ottawa to move "expeditiously" on the deal.

"We're very supportive of the arrangement," he told the committee.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you even aware of the civil war?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yes. The uprising/rogue state won.

They went against the government in power.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do you know about the civil war of 1911-1912 where the rogue republic won against the Qing monarchy?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

When people rise up against the regime, it's not the people who are in the wrong lmfao. The government gets its legitimacy from the people and not the other way around. You're basically preaching fascism here.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you think me saying the people going against the government were against the government means I think they were in the wrong?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At this point I get the impression that even you have no idea what you're saying.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The people opposed the government or "went rogue"

The government still existing doesn't make them rogue.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, what makes Taiwan rogue is that they're run by a separatist clique funded by a foreign power. This akin to if the Alberta independence movement declared that they're the legitimate government of Canada and invited US military to protect Alberta from the rest of Canada.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It would be akin to Alberta separating, taking or uniting Canada and the traditional government being forced to Vancouver Island.

It doesn't make it less of an uprising.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Let me clear this up for you. The uprising created a new system in China which is the current legitimate government of China. Meanwhile, Taiwan is still part of China under international law, and is recognized as such by vast majority of the countries. Amusingly, it is the KMT that is now actively working to normalize relations with the mainland and repatriate with their chairwoman having just travelled to the mainland.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

What about the government of the Qing dynasty from before 1911? The name Qing is where we get the name of China.

If the US continental congress forced the traditional Royal government off the colonies, does that make the US a rogue government?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, you can say a rogue government overthrew Qing.

The colonies did go rogue, yes.

But I would call the US the bad guy, I didn't say that about the CCP.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Then a question? Can there be any armed civil unrest that is not rogue?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, rogue is just going against law/authority.

It's not inherently good or bad.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

OK. Uderatamd your position.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

What about the people who opposed the government or "went rogue" in 1911?

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Which civil war? In the US there is the civil war, in China there are many civil wars. Which one are you talking about?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Per the discussion KMT vs CCP 1927-1950 though if you knew anything about any of their civil wars then you'd be aware of this.

It wouldn't make any sense if we were talking about the Red Turban Rebellion for instance.