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comrade @Riverside@reddthat.com here isn't the slop, it's the comments. I mean regardless of what they think of us, this is sad lol

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

tldr then:

  • Russia invading Ukraine purely because there exist Nazis in Ukraine = not a valid reason
  • Russia invading Ukraine because of broader geopolitical context and pre-existing Ukrainian civil war = maybe valid reason, separate discussion
  • Arming Ukraine = sometimes arming some Nazis
  • ... Therefore arming Ukraine = not in the interest of those who would like to prevent Nazis in Ukraine from having weapons
  • Arming Nazis in Ukraine has precedent and one has strong reason to think it's intentional because the US has done this before

The implicit takeaway is that we should support a negotiated peace in Ukraine despite the fact it would mean Ukraine giving up much territory, because they'd lose that territory eventually anyway at the cost of more lives, more environmental destruction, and more nigh-irreparable damage to international relations and solidarity; Russia also ought to make concessions (and the part of me that holds immediate individuals' human dignity and the sanctity of life above all else hates Russia and would like to see them make many, many concessions and pay lots of reparations, despite what the rational part feels) but ultimately those of us living in Western states may only extract more concessions out of Russia by supporting increased militarization, which obviously is Not Good.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I think you can make a much stronger argument, because it's not merely that some of Ukraine's armed forces etc. are Nazis, but that the government in general is openly Banderite and has openly brought explicitly Nazi groups into the military and then took its own initiatives to spread their influence by various means. The government is full of extremely self-aware and open Nazi collaborators who are happy to spread Nazism.

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

The Bandera statue at Lviv (where the OUN did the 1941 Lviv Pogrom) is a telling landmark, imo.