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[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

except the national economies aren't organized in a way to enable any form of UBI.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it's not like governments are trying to get there when it's not an election season though

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Elections aren't going to save you.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean Somalia is right there, mate

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

exactly. If elections ain't doing the trick, Somalia is doing all of the tricks

[–] FippleStone@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Saying "exactly" when someone questions a nonsensical retort is neither an explanation nor an elaboration

[–] flamingleg@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

national economies handle being welfare states just fine, which isn't so different from what a UBI would be. Also developed service economies live and die by consumption. A UBI would stabilise and stimulate domestic consumer demand.

[–] Darcranium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Comingle app (beta) is seeking to start our own UBI without relying on the government to do it for us. Seems very promising

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Darcranium@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's a nonprofot org which basically just does monthly UBI to your bank account when you sign up... They did the math and it turns out you only need a few thousand people of diverse economic backgrounds for it to be viable.

From what I understand it's like a phone banking app, but more secure, and it takes something like 10% of your earnings each month, then returns a lump sum to everyone of around $500 almost immediately. So people earning $40k/yr will net a couple hundred dollars per month. If you make nothing that month you will get closer to $1000 People who make $100k/yr will lose a couple hundred dollars. And the multimillionaires will lose a couple Gs a month (which sounds like a lot but it's negligible to them).

https://youtu.be/mo9FsrSXZww

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the multimillionaires

Why would any of them do this instead of charity donation that they can deduct from their taxable income?

[–] Darcranium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Great question. So this money goes directly to people, instead of through a charity. We are cutting out the middle man, and it affects EVERYONE with cash, not just a select few who know how to benefit from the charity and qualify for their supplies or whatever the charity provides. It's awesome for us, but not as awesome for the billionaires and multimillionaires. The only real benefit for them is, they get to keep their heads!