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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What I mean is that the actual POLICIES of that party when in government are at best sprinkled with social democrat concepts, and that's only in certain years when the party is led by the center-left faction. As far as I know the PSOE hasn't been controlled by the Leftwing faction since the days just after the fall of Fascism in Spain.

I'm actually in Portugal and am a member of a small leftwing party here and am well aware that amongst members there is quite a range of political positions. However the actual ideas pushed by the party publicly are but a subset of that range, one which mainly matches the ideas of the faction which has the most seats amongst the "national board" and which controls the leadership and most parliamentary seats. In fact the party has recently collapsed in votes because (IMHO) the dominant faction are middle-class posh boys and girls with no life experience who had no strategy or vision for the Future of the country and weren't really trying to be a leftwing party for all Portuguese but in practice only for people like them, so amongst other things they did a lot of parroting of shit they found on Twitter from New Labour in Britain and the Democrats in the US, which are actually rightwing so they were all identity politics whilst ignoring broader impoverishment in the country and not noticing obvious phenomenons like a massive realestate bubble killing the chances of any young people who don't have a "bank of mommy and daddy" to back them.

(As you might have deduced, I'm not aligned with the views of that faction).

Very well put. The nonsense that we, spanish leftwing, had to endure that came from the US Democrats and was amplified by social networks was one of the reasons politics are as shitty as they are today and left wing is so fragmented.