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[–] Pistachio@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I get what you're doing, I just don't get why you chose to astrik the burger part instead of the other part.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I spelled out the actual slurs to not lessen their impact. I know plenty people from USA visit the Fediverse and this comm; I wanted them to see the sort of treatment immigrants in their country get (that goes from denial of deciding one's own identity to dehumanisation), while reading the news shared by the OP, about when they are the immigrants in other countries. Because I've noticed a lot of them expect others to roll red carpets for them, when they never did the same towards the others.

In the meantime I asterisked "burger" into "b*rger" to show a bit of culture stereotypically associated with Americans being treated itself as a slur. (Cue to "spic". Like, are we Latin Americans supposed to feel bad for… spicing our food?)

One more thing, since I'm talking about this. I focused on Latin Americans because I do happen to know people from here who live in USA; but the same applies to other groups there. East Asians, Meds (from both sides of the sea, but specially the southern one), Middle Easterners… and it goes without saying their society does the same shit towards the descendants of people they forced to live there as slaves, stigmatising even their bloody African American dialects.

[–] hdnclr@beehaw.org 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're way too comfortable using the slurs you used, and this whole exercise waw just unnecessary mocking of people who genuinely just want better lives, simply for being associated with a shitty culture that they're trying to escape from. You're openly enjoying a power fantasy of denigrating people trying to escape from fascism and smugly asserting yourself as superior, and your whole thought exercise bullshit is just a thin veil for your superiority complex. None of this helped me think about our circumstances in a fresh or enlightening way, and instead I'm just agitated that this is how you choose to communicate, and you expect to be heard and understood?

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

You’re way too comfortable using the slurs you used

Don't assume. I don't typically use one of the words in question, except metalinguistically and when relevant to do so. I did it here because I know it makes people from a certain privileged group (Americans) uncomfortable. Note also how I am not using it to target the group it's usually used against (Black people; they aren't part of the problem).

And regarding "spic", since it targets to my own group (Latin Americans), I give myself the freedom to use it.

and this whole exercise waw just unnecessary mocking of people who genuinely just want better lives

I'm not mocking anyone for wanting a better life. I'm showing what other people, who are (or were, given the current state of the things) also seeking a better life, were subjected to. "Hope you don't need to taste your own society's poison, and be genuinely grateful if you don't".

If anything I'm angry at the bloody double standard shown by the media (including this text) regarding American immigrants and immigrants in USA. And, as I said, the expectations of some Americans. "I'm American, I deserve to be treated better than those fucking spics!" (inb4 refer to what I said regarding "spic")

You’re openly enjoying a power fantasy of denigrating people

Stop assuming. You're making shit up about what's inside someone else's head, dammit. If you want to criticise what I wrote it's fair game, but I'm not wasting my time with the next bullshit about my "comfort" or "enjoyment" or whatever.

I already stated why I did this.

trying to escape from fascism

When some people here tried to escape from fascism, guess how they were treated there?

And by "fascism" here, I don't mean just 16 months. I mean decades, due to coups staged by USA. And people going to USA because being treated the way I represented there would be still better than "giving birth to electricity" as a political dissident.

But we don't talk about this here, right? Noooo, only Americans (or should I say WASPs?) trying a better life.

smugly asserting yourself as superior

Okay. Third assumption = bullshit in a row. I'm not engaging further with you, go assume what the Pope is thinking.