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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Sltldr: "They're just throwing away money, planting trees in the desert for them to die."

The Great Green Wall is a top down, big government intervention that has little to no local buy-in and isn't sustainable without continued big government funding.

Not surprisingly, the funding has mostly dried up, and so has the land.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

> "alt tl;dr"

> proceeds to say nothing in the actual article that doesn't mention executive salaries or China

Tankies really love to just say shit, don't they?

You can read about it here (open-access) if you don't want to listen to someone make shit up about an article and instead read about the good things China's initiative is doing.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reminding people that this method DOES IN FACT WORK, when the article heavily suggests it is the method, not the people performing the method, that is the problem seems valuable to me.

There is nothing wrong with the science behind the Great Green Wall. As empirically proven in the other massive de-desertification project that is on a similar scale.

The problem is, very specifically, capitalism and its systemic failures.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Reminding people that this method DOES IN FACT WORK, when the article heavily suggests it is the method, not the people performing the method, that is the problem seems valuable to me.

Oh, so you just don't know or care what a "TL;DR" is. Very cool. (It's a summary, by the way.) Above, I've provided an open-access article highlighting the accomplishments (I'm not saying that snarkily like in scare quotes) of China's GGW initiative.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

...Yes, I provided an alternative summary. Very good. I'm glad you recognized that I did that and explained it for the class, little one.

I don't know why you people (violently pejorative) get so angry when people don't mindlessly reply in the exact same way that you do, but it is something you need to get over.

You're not on reddit anymore. American Neoliberalism isn't welcome here, and soon will not be welcome anywhere on the planet after your Regime leader's actions over the last few years. You need to get over your programming sooner, rather than later.

[–] caurvo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago

Alternative summary feels intentionally misleading, when it's clear your intention was not to summarise but start a discussion on a related tangent (which is appreciated).

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

...Yes, I provided an alternative summary.

Oh, yeah, I remember the time someone provided a summary of Tom Sawyer, and when I thought it was lacking, I gave an "alternative summary" which was a crappy, nakedly biased opinion of elements not even in the book and mostly focused on how Huckleberry Finn is a way better character in his book. That's how summaries work.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't understand direct on topic comparisons just say so.

If there's a story about how Hamburgers are an unpopular food that fails to satisfy hunger because McDonalds is failing, one would be correct in providing a summary of that story with the additional information that Burger King sales have increased in order to show the premise of the story is incorrect or incomplete.

I know for a fact you lower class of the Amerisraeli empire learn this within the first few years of your education, in between pledges of allegiance and Israeli-written alternative history facts.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you don't understand direct on topic comparisons just say so.

Do I need to point you to an actual definition of a "summary"? I've been chalking it up to tankie bad-faith, but at this point, I'm wondering if it's just aggressive tankie stupidity.

"With the additional information?" Okay, I'm back to assuming bad-faith over illiteracy. Motherfucker, 1) that's outside the boundaries of a summary, and more importantly 2) none of what you said is in the article. Like that's not a summary. That's not even an analysis. A "TL;DR" isn't "here's my shitty opinion on this topic not at all explored in the article."

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Serious question, do you have autism?

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. Did you know that the word comes from the German Autismus, coined as an alternative to the term at the time "autoerotism"? Derives from Greek "autós + ismós" – "self-ism".