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[–] Fijxu@programming.dev 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

But Denuvo is DRM software to prevent privacy, is not an anti-cheat :?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

DRM should be illegal. If we have devices that can copy information instantly, it’s not our fault that it’s incompatible with capitalism - seems like capitalism is incompatible with nature. Find a new business model.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Find a new business model

They did, running everything on their machines and charging us monthly to use it.

[–] eru@mouse.chitanda.moe 5 points 2 months ago

still sounds like capitalism to me

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

The new business model is cloud subscription gaming. You sure you want to argue for that?

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 4 points 2 months ago

They have more than one product. They provide anti-cheat as well as anti-tamper

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

It's both actually. They offer both anti cheat and anti tamper protection!

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It may have other nefarious uses but it is primarily anti-cheat software.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

... No, Denuvo is "anti-tamper" software, meaning DRM primarily with anti-cheat as a bonus.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

According to their own site it is both apparently. Either way it is used for both purposes, and for single player that makes no sense.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But one of the 2 uses does make sense for single player games.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Really? It constrains or prevents modding, which is a core part of PC gaming.

Copy protection for single player games is essentially pointless. Even GTA V let's you do what you want in single player mode because it is offline.

The only reason they might want anti tamper is to support in game purchases, which is equally senseless for single player games.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's an antipiracy measure, not anti modding. Have you never heard of denuvo before?

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To repeat myself . . . Anti piracy is pointless for single player games. Without the need for anything online game cracks don't have to work hard to bypass such copy protection. Also it is anti social, often requiring to be online just to play a purely offline game.

Do you WANT this stuff?

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is anti piracy pointless for single player games? Why does the number of players matter? Online vs offline again doesn't matter when the whole point is that the company wants to sell games rather than have people pirate them. And don't think I'm pro denuvo or something, you just don't seem to be making sense with your criticism.

[–] mub@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

If you want to prevent piracy don't make games ridiculously expensive, or block modding, or force users to be online when they shouldn't need to be.

Its the same problem TV streaming service are having. Their model worked when they priced it well and you didn't have to get 5 different services. Now that's happened privacy is well on the rise again.

It is nuts to think that copy protection for single player games makes financial sense when all it does is piss people off and encourage more piracy.