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I see this moon launch as an exorbitantly wasteful, nationalist project. No money for healthcare and housing, but plenty of money to boldly go where man has gone several many times before.

When I bring this up with liberal friends and family, they give me a sort of incredulous look and talk about how wonderful and scientific and non-political it is. I don't mind being the "you've gone too far left" guy, but you talk to the same people about military spending and they're right on board.

Is someone here able to diagnose my crankiness and explain why this is actually a good use of resources? (Will also accept echo-chamber validation and ways to use this to increase class consciousness, if offered.)

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[–] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 0 points 1 month ago

I'll have to stick to the specifics of the argument and context on this one. We're talking about biology and now you're talking about individual personalities wistfully dreaming of greener pastures. We're slowly drifting from the point to something far beside the point. The point was that Sagan is conflating a more modern historical and social condition with human nature. This is something that people have done for hundreds of years and part of why capitalism is sticky. The innovation of Marx is that this modern social condition is not the eternal state of humankind, but something that has changed over time and must be changed. Everything has a social and historical context. The only way to make "people just want to explore new ideas" fit in with "traveling to space is a biological imperative" and "because people long ago traveled long distances" is to have no regard for either social or historical context. You have to remove context in order to flatten it out and make it all seem on the same level.

This isn't an argument about the indomitable spirit of mankind or whether people dream of possibilities. I'm trying to view this through a socialist lens not a romantic, literary one.