PPS: Please at least TRY to read the following (if possible, not just the title) with an open mind and in a spirit of tolerance. It was written in good faith by a Linux user who will be staying on Linux.
PPPS: Among all the mean-spirited downvoting and insults and calumny (hey, this is social media) I actually learned a few useful things from this discussion. Perhaps the highlight was the tip about an obscure crowdfunded project which really fits the bill. Too late this time but I'm hopeful such projects, including Pine and Framework, might be become more available and more affordable in future.
I'm frustrated. Once again, I have had to buy a computer I didn't want in order to stay on Linux.
Some background. Compared to most people in this forum, I am a somewhat normal computer user. That is, I have not touched a mouse in decades, I use a small lightweight low-end laptop (which is not slow on Linux), and I do not take anything to pieces. To be clear, I'm a programmer and a massive FOSS idealist. But I've never been interested in hardware, and in this respect I'm a complete normie. Let's not forget that for most ordinary people, a "computer" these days is the tethered corporate toy in their pocket.
For me this slide away from free personal computing is now getting impossible to ignore.
- 20 years ago I could buy a laptop (a Fujitsu) from a major European electronics retailer which came with a Linux CD - a Linux CD! (Kanotix, a Debian variant).
- In the late 2010s, I had a nice choice of cheap Taiwanese Wintel netbooks. So there was a Windows tax to pay but at least the hardware worked fine.
- 4 years ago, the options were getting thin on the ground. For 400€ I could find only one Linux-compatible X86 laptop, made by Acer. And since I didn't have a Linux live USB, I had to (fake-) register the thing with Microsoft in order to get access to the damn web.
- Today, there's almost nothing left. Intel laptops have all but disappeared from the budget aisle, replaced by ARM-powered Chromebooks and, increasingly, big Android tablets with keyboards. Putting non-spyware Linux on these things is often possible, sort of, but it's a nightmare. You're back to the 2010 era of ROM-flashing on Android, using repos from random developers and wading through impenetrable forum discussions. It's a massive PITA. This is not the way computing should be done, and normal users will never do it even if they were capable. It's hardly secure either.
The geeky suggestion which I can hear coming, "buy a secondhand Thinkpad", is not a proper solution. It's a band-aid fix with a timeout (PS: meaning it's on the way to EOL). Hardware from the likes of Tuxedo and Framework is nice but too heavy (PS: correction, Framework is not heavy) and way too expensive for me. The Pinebook Pro is always out of stock.
And anyway, for years I have wanted to move from a laptop to a convertible tablet (like the Surface or Lenovo's Yoga and Duet lines). It makes so much sense ergonomically and even in terms of maintenance. (Keyboards have moving parts. I have to change my Acer because it has a faulty keyboard which cannot be fixed except professionally at prohibitive cost. Crazy.) But none of these computers are easily compatible with Linux. It's possible, yes, but hardly simple.
I considered, for a fleeting moment, throwing in the towel. After 20 years.
And then bought yet another laptop, basically the same model as last time except a Chromebook. I know I'll get an OS I control onto it without too much stress. That's a relief. But I'm more worried than ever about how this story is going to end.
PS: I should have predicted the bitterness and negativity and cynicism I would provoke simply by sharing my thoughts and feelings in good faith. Social media is absolutely incorrigible. In the meantime I will of course be staying on Linux, as I thought I described.___
OK points taken, but I'll push back a bit about these definitions of "normal".
What I aspire to is a tablet with a keyboard. I would argue that this makes me very normal indeed. This is not "abnormal hardware" any more, it's basically the step up from smartphones, which is what ordinary people do their computing on these days.
These days desktop computers are bought by corporations and gamers only, and laptops are bought by students and rich people. Ordinary people use Android. Hence my whole issue.
As many others have already pointed out: it's currently not the best time to buy hardware. FWIW, you could have grabbed Star Labs' StarLite^[Which, quite literally, happens to be a "tablet with a keyboard".] last year for 750 €. Currently, it starts at 1014 €.
Btw, OP, perhaps I'm obnoxious/oblivious/obtuse (or what have you), but I wasn't able to parse what you mean exactly with Linux compatible hardware. If it's not too much trouble for you, could you be very explicit?
EDIT: At one time, the StarLite was available for 416 (!) £. At least, as per this article of GamingOnLinux.
Yes, but at this rate in 6 months it might be an even worse time to buy it!
Linux-incompatible means non-Intel hardware, basically. Mediatek chips in particular, which seems to be what powers most of the things I want to buy. If they have a Chromebook OS on top, then you can probably make something work with effort. If it's Android, forget it, you'll be writing the drivers yourself. All this bores me silly, I'm not interested in hardware, I just want to run Linux.
Then, please, could you help me understand whether a device with the specs found below does (or does not) satisfy you:
HP EliteBook x360 1030 G2
If you don't want refurbished, then how about the following device?
HP Chromebook x360
And, finally, if you actually want somewhat modern hardware, how about this one?
Lenovo Chromebook Plus 2-in-1 14
This is like talking to a chatbot on a store site!
#1 would be fine if new and <400€ (so... not)
#2: not enough RAM
#3 a bit too expensive and powerful, but it's a close call.
To reiterate my post: I got years and years of fruitful Linux use out of a little sub-Celeron netbook which cost much less than these. The same niche exists today but it is occupied by ARM and Mediatek. This is the fundamental problem.
😅. Yeah, sorry. I suppose, in retrospect, I had (still) failed to completely grasp what your point was. And I wanted to be direct/blunt in hopes finally getting it.
FWIW, over where I'm at, HP sells it with 8 gb of ram for under 400 euros. Full specs in case you're curious:
HP Chromebook x360 14
Understood. Then, yeah: Agreed. 100%.
Though, I don't know the mechanics at hand/play that have contributed to our current status quo. My naive take would be that Windows 11's increased hardware requirements has made it harder for lower end devices to support it; thus paving the way for a higher floor of system specs across the board. Hence, higher prices, even without accounting the current price hikes due to the whole AI bubble that's about to pop. Though, that doesn't quite explain what's up with the lack of cheap x86 on Chromebooks...
That HP Chromebook pretty much fits the specs. Would have bought it if it was on sale anywhere I looked. To be perfect it would have 12-in screen and be 100€ cheaper (i.e. with inflation what I paid a decade ago, when I seem to remember being spoiled for choice).
Your theory is good. I have an even simpler one. Normies don't buy "computers" any more, they do their computing on smartphones alone. So laptops are now the domain of rich people who can afford two devices (plus businesspeople and students). And these people already have a smartphone with a massive screen, which explains the disappearance of 10-12-inch laptops. Some of these rich people (I am an honorary one, being somewhat poor) complain on forums about the disappearance of small phones. These people are the market for that smallish iPhone, which is literally the only small mobile left. Everyone else reasonably wants as big a screen as they can get, since they don't have any other computer.
I'm worried that there's not much room for FOSS in this new world. Let's hope I'm wrong.