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[–] PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

very likely bad faith astroturf and propaganda accounts.

And that's the same tired argument that was made then. Why do you find it so hard to accept that some people just aren't onboard with either of the two main parties? Look around. Tide is turning. Lots of people on Lemmy now are open to third parties now. Are they all propaganda accounts too?!

This is why you all lost the fucking election. Because you can't wrap your head around the fact that you may be wrong about things.

Facts: Lemmy had about 40,000–50,000 monthly active users worldwide in November 2024. There were 236 MILLION U.S. citizens voting-age. 154+ MILLION actual ballots cast. Third-party advocates made an even smaller slice of that already microscopic global user base. It's utterly ludicrous for anyone to think that third-party voters on Lemmy could have split the vote or had any meaningful say whatsoever in the presidential election.

Yet you are ok with them being censored because you were scared of them. How'd that work out? They were banned, and guess what? Trump still won. Again.

those people still magically disappeared completely from Lemmy after the election.

I was told I would "disappear" after the election. Maybe it looks like I did because I had to create a new username (not for ban evading--I actually blocked the instances I was banned from). But here I am.

Am I a 'propaganda' account, still going, 2 years after the election?

Not only that, but I see lots of people being accused of being alts of those 'propaganda' posters. So did they really disappear if their alts are everywhere? Think about that.

You want democrats to win the next election? Then pick a candidate who can win. You all lost to Trump twice. Think about that.

Also, even if every single person who voted third party, changed their vote to Harris, she still would have lost. That's how big the margin of her loss was. Lemmy wasn't even close to making a dent in any of that so to blame Lemmy posters for it is crazy.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It costs next to nothing to include Lemmy in a social media astroturf and propaganda campaign, and is even easier and more effective because the small userbase means people's posts are viewed less suspiciously (case in point: Your entire "the userbase is too small lolol" argument here). I am absolutely certain a few people I interacted with during that time were astroturf, MAGA-in-disguise or propaganda accounts.

But to get a little meta: I'm engaging in good faith discussion and giving reasons for my arguments. And you come here, respond to me twice with condescending derision when I wasn't even talking to or about you, and are making an illogical claim that a 50K userbase somehow means Lemmy is immune from propaganda (whether state or individual). You then downvote me, which I didn't do to anyone I disagree with here. It's childish and petty.

We are two people who probably want the same left-based outcomes and have disagreements on the method to get there, but you're ranting to me about random things in this thread that I didn't even say. You're being extremely unpleasant, unkind and uncivil. I stand by what I said.

[–] PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Thread was under my comments in this thread, so I responded. No that was not my username. I had to change my username because of doxxing attempts and numerous KYS dm's I was getting. From searching just now, looks like your person is still an active current poster. I guess he didn't 'disappear after the election' either.

I don't use my old username anymore, and the instance it was on, closed. The person who told me to kill myself several times back then, and tried to dox me, is still around and still posts too. lol

I haven't been rude or uncivil to you at all.

My profile isn't ai generated. I'm here right now replying to you. I wrote my profile. Just because someone disagrees with you, it doesn't mean they're ai or that they're bots or that they're propaganda. Your comments are an exact snapshot of the time period I was talking about. So neither you or I left, and neither of us have changed our minds. Which means you believe in what you are saying, and I believe in what I'm saying. IMHO, neither of us deserve to be censored just because we don't agree.