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[–] steel_for_humans@piefed.social 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I thought Germany was a progressive country. Why only men?

[–] Ibuthyr@feddit.org 0 points 11 hours ago

I don't give a shit. My daughter isn't going to serve this pos country. I'd rather piss off than risk anything for this garbage country full of Nazi cunts.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are we? In any case, it's a law from the 60s. They "only" modified a paragraph to make it apply in peace time.

But yeah, if we must have conscription laws again, they should definitely apply to all genders.

[–] nope@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Sweden reactivated our conscription duty in 2017 and then, since the law should be gender neutral, women were then also required to muster and serve if they where deemed needed by the armed forces.

For those looking in horror at Sweden for forcing young men and women into the military: In reality if you really don't want to serve, then you will probably preform a lot worse than a person highly motivated to serve their country. Thus you will not be called upon by the armed forces to do conscription.

However with the troubling times we are in the Swedish armed forces require a lot more people to uphold the deterrence and that results in the bar for who gets called upon gets lowered.

[–] mech@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

The progressive parties in Germany don't want conscription for all genders.
They want conscription for no one.
Also, Germany's government is lead by this guy right now.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I thought Germany was a progressive country.

Oh, sweet summer child...

Outright nazis, a supposed center-right (and highly corrupt) party copying every nazi talking point and a supposed center-left (and not caring about anything but gifts for pensioneers) party agreeing to every insanity as long as they get a position in government, too, combine to an easy 2/3 majority in polls (did I mention age bracket 55+ having a majority in elections?^^), which translates into an even bigger majority in seats.

We have stopped doing actual politics at all as it's completely drowned out by culture war 24/7.

They are so "progressive" that they advocate for burning more fossil fuels right now as renewables are obviosuly not working, Germany is -unlike the Nordics- much too cold for heat pumps, and also much too big for electric mobility with its limited range as everyone is obviously driving a few thousand kilometers daily...

No, that's barely more than a slight exaggeration of their regular talking points.

[–] pulsey@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's also a problem with our Grundgesetz/ constitution. It has the old law in it, which only requires men to serve. To change this, it would require a two-third majority in the parlament, i.e. the government would need to help of the opposition. Also the current ruling government party is conservative and isnt really interested in changing it anyways.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Worth noting here that this article of the constitution already had to be changed once because the European human rights court ruled that treating men and women differently isn't allowed. The case wasn't about the stipulation that only men need to serve but about one explicitly preventing women from doing so, and thus Article 12a (1) remained intact; But it stands to reason that it would be struck down if somebody brings the case before the courts, especially since there is precedent now.