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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are people who celebrate Eucharist with grape juice and it doesn't turn alcoholic. It's not that transubstantiation makes it alcoholic.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying that Jesus blood is different based on who is doing it??

Sounds like someone is doing it wrong

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the blessing that matters, not the contents of the cup. In transubstantiation the outward characteristics don't change.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Then how do you know it worked?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is your faith so weak that you need proof, Thomas?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah. The ol' "don't ask because we have no answers" answer.

So I believe that transubstantiation only works in the middle east, and we just haven't realized.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't care what and if you believe but the alcohol in the wine is certainly no proof of transubstantiation. Who would even claim it?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's not complicated. I'm probably just explaining it poorly.

Some liquid turns into Jesus' blood during mass. After that happens, the liquid contains alcohol. Therefore, Jesus' blood contains alcohol.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 days ago

You don't. It's religion.