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https://apnews.com/article/archive-fact-checking-2449102499

Fun fact: Epstein victim Maria Farmer saw Ivana and Gislane recruit “piles of kids” for Epstein regularly. She thought it was odd at the time.

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[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

But Trump was a US citizen. So it doesn't matter if Ivana was a US citizen.

So fuck Trump, but this is a stupid argument.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“both parents” is the bullshit the demented rapist is pushing.

It’s a perfectly applicable argument to blatant unconstitutional bullshit.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

No, read the executive order:

the privilege of United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the United States: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.

If either parent was a citizen, the children are citizens. Trump was a citizen so his kids are citizens under his new interpretation.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If the situation were reversed, Trump wouldn't give a shit, he'd deport them anyway. So why should we give a shit?

For that matter, we could just do what MAGA does, and just say it over and over for a few months just to make them crazy. Give them a taste of their own medicine. It should work great, they get outraged far easier than we do.

[–] Psionicsickness@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Bad argument. We don’t need to use bad arguments with the massive amount of good arguments.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It's so incredibly stupid.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These types of posts/memes/graphics ... they have to be created and posted by MAGA supporters, right?

I know willfully ignorant people span all political persuasions but this kind of brain dead logical fallacy, so obvious a dementia ridden pedophile would notice it immediately, serves purely to delegitimize the people who support birthright citizenship. So whether it's someone trying to be supportive or someone trying to be harmful, the intent doesn't matter so much when the effect is indistinguishable.

[–] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago

It could very well be. If I were a Russian psy-op, then I would post exactly stuff like this. But who knows.