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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I would like to remind everyone that when the 4th Reich finally got their fascist paws on the files of the great and terrible STASI's records they were able to identify seven extrajudicial murders. Think about that for a moment.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can I get a source for that? Not doubting you, just want to make the same argument to own the LIB s

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I read it in stasi state or socialist paradise. I'd have to do more research to back it up.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

If I remember correctly, Parenti mentions this in Blackshirts and Reds as well.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a good example of the actual mechanism and outcomes of the propaganda used against Americans and other westerners. The actual facts of what the Stasi was and how it operated are pretty analogous to the FBI in the US, and to other semi-secret national police outfits in other countries. They were shitty, thuggish cops who constantly overreached... and their arrest rates were in the same ballpark as what the FBI did (from my understanding of the data, the FBI actually arrested *more *people per capita in 1989? The data I'm looking up is a little fuzzy). The western propaganda latches on to interesting factoids like the extensive nature of their registered informant network, and then use that to spin yarns about how "like a giant octopus, the Stasi's tentacles probed every aspect of life", and then they put that quote on the fucking wikipedia page about them.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

also the reason the stasi's networks were as broad as they were is because they were the group that handled noise complaints and things like that. The neighbours calling the cops on you for playing loud music at 3am doesn't make you a political arrest

Germany has laws about what day laundry can be done and similarly the stasi were the ones enforcing those laws