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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 139 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So just to be clear for all of you:

Dolby is not a creator of AV1, Dolby is not in charge of licensing decisions for AV1. All companies involved in HVEC and AV1 have not performed bait and switch.

What has happened is that Dolby alleges that they already have a patent on parts of what makes AV1 work. This may be an accident, or maybe someone stole Dolby’s tech. This may be something that can be fixed by changing how the software works, without breaking the file format.

It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Also, I’ve been saying it for 30 years at this point, and I will keep saying it: FUCK patents, software patents especially, and fuck the stupid system of capitalism for making them necessary

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

AV1 has been out almost ten years and Dolby's first case is with Snapchat? Bruh

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which is a damn good point. If you don't protect a patent in a reasonable time frame I believe you lose the right to protect it. If Dolby has had this patent for a long time, and allowed it to become part of a standard, it may be a quick dismissal of the case.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thinking of trademarks? I'm not sure, but I feel like that is true. To quote a true asshole: "I'm just asking questions".

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Trademarks I think are the most commonplace for this to happen, but I believe it applies to all IP. I don’t believe that any laws are written with specific timeframes but if the court feels that a right holder knew about and didn’t take action against an infringer within a “reasonable” time (as to be determined by the count based on the circumstances surrounding the case), then an implicit license is inferred.

If this was not done, it would encourage right holders to wait out infringement in order to achieve larger settlements.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No. Pretty sure it's true of patents too. Might depend on which court you're in.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Tyler Texas’s erasers just perked up. That court has cost parent troll victims billions.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

"Spider-Man, Spider-Man - does whatever a spider can."

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Oh, I’m not saying this to defend Dolby’s actions, IMHO and IANAL but this feels like a “see if this shit sticks” type of deal.

Maybe this is something specific that Snapchat’s implementation does and isn’t directly related to AV1 and the headline is clickbait? Hard for me to know.

I just wanted to point out that AV1’s consortium doesn’t seem to be rugpulling as some other commenters on here seem to feel.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Dolby: we have a patent that ug let's you do shit to a file so it comes out in another format. We own all formats now and forever!

[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Thats what ambiguity enables, a logical fallacy that allows evil corpos to do as they please. And thats basically capitalism, or even feudalism at this point.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Or "strategic ambiguity" as practiced by a certain country.