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[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Downvoted, this is never about kids, their goal is always to sppy on adults. See my comment below.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Down voting because we agree? Novel. Yes, it's not about the kids. If it was they'd address it by helping the parents find time and tools to care for their children. Not taking more of everyone else's time. I agree.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think that the person you replied to is suggesting that by arguing on the authorities terms (that it's about kids) you're legitimising them.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago

By pointing out that if it was actually about kids. What they're doing isn't effective and shouldn't be what they're doing? That's not legitimization in my book. Believe me I regularly point out that it's bullshit. Lots of us do.

But these bullshit arguments work because there is a problem with social media and unsupervised children. An issue that isn't addressed when all we do is simply point it out that their arguments are bullshit. Because even if the so-called Solutions are bullshit the underlying issue is real. And by not addressing the issue you delegitimize your own arguments. The uneducated will listen to manipulative grifters promising solutions. Simply because they're offering solutions and you're not.

But this is indicative of typical leftist infighting. Not taking the time to understand someone's point or where they're coming from. But attacking them more on the issue that they didn't say exactly what you thought they should say. Or use the more radicalizing terms you think should have been used. Meanwhile fascists and their cult mindlessly amplify each other and get things done. Which by the way is not intended as a personal attack. It's something even I myself am guilty of sometime to time.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Don't stop but the most direct response should be top.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago

And it does. There are others here who basically posted that sentiment. And if none of those were satisfactory, you could have posted it yourself. Unless of course you're upset that I literally posted first, before them. And that the order is the issue. Though that would be rather inane. But then so is the performative drama farming of announcing downvotes.