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Why sometimes Linux is hard to switch to (piefed.social)

submitted 2 days ago by BandanaBug@piefed.social to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Normally I always forget why I still keep thinking about switching back to Windows. Today was a great reminder. Linux can be frustrating. This post is somewhat about awareness and partly about me learning about other peoples experiences. I updated my CachyOS as usual. There were some system packages upgraded and I got the notification to reboot. Figuring I'd do it later I left after some time and the PC went to sleep. Upon returning the screen stayed black. Even upon forced reboot. Remembering I was using Limine with BTRFS snapshots I tried multiple previous snapshots but to no avail. I remember this happened before. So now I face another reinstall.. This and having to dive into the deep end of terminal commands to get drivers, programs or games working can be quite frustrating. I understand why people are turned off and go back to Windows..

Onto NixOS for me. A big dive but it seems very stable which might be just what i need. I feel like the philosophy of NixOS combined with a graphical store to install programs and what not seems like a great solution.

What would your ultimate distro be like?

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[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Under linux you have the option to not reboot after an update, use that power wisely.

You did not, so you took a risk and lost.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't I want to reboot?

[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

You might be a server that only can reboot at a given time to respect service level agreements with your customers

[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol under Windows you can reboot during an upgrade. Failing to provide a picture after not rebooting is just dumb. Either force me to reboot or perhaps don't allow sleep after an update..

[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't babysit users here, I want to never be forced to do anything, nor is sleep a problem on all machines after update.

There already are OSs that remove control from the user and they are not called linux. We do things differently here and that is why it is not for anyone. It might sound elitistic, but it actually is not. There are good reasons to allow choice to the user, because some users need that power. Others don't and prefer ignorance.

[–] BandanaBug@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This mentality is exactly why people are put off. It's not about babysitting it's about ease of use. If people like CBT then enjoy but some people think a finger up their ass is already too kinky.

I just mean some people just want their stuff to work. Why someone would be against ease of use with no drawbacks is beyond me.

[–] Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, the ease of use is to be able to choose to reboot IMO. As you say: there is no drawback, just fukken reboot if you don't have to keep running.

I have to keep my machines running, so you do you, I do I, but if you want to force me to reboot we gonna have issues agreeing mate.

Edit: also, i think linux is not for everyone, i agree that removing choice to allow for braindead usage is a viable policy in other OSs, so putting off people is a feature, not a bug IMO