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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 26 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

As someone who doesn't understand the arcane and subtle inner workings of "wall street" I'm just going to ask the obvious: why TF can't wall street people just ignore Trump's lies like everyone else?

Or is it just because everyone is bedding down on Thursday night thinking "yeah Trump might tweet something when he's on the shitter in the morning so better reduce my holdings and see what happens"

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Even as everyone has learned by now his words don't mean anything "real", there's still something to be gleaned.

The fact that he's even looking for an exit speaks to how far he is "committed" to this path. So sure, the "peace talks" don't really exist, but the fact he says they do exist and keeps claiming they are going well means he wants to reverse course on the flimsiest excuse. So if the circumstances might give him an excuse, it might go away. Iran's reactions seems they are disinclined to give him that excuse easily, so the chance isn't huge, but his deadline extension based on nothing suggests he is open to other opportunities to let him back out while somehow saving face. He still cares about saving face enough to make the chances problematic, but at least he's looking for an exit.

Conversely if he said that there's no need to let up until the job is done, and his forces are going to imminently secure the strait, then that's a lie that suggests to not expect relief anytime soon.

It's about the direction the lie indicates he wants things to go and how that may play into outcomes.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Every rational person stopping for a minute while every stupid crazy mark reacts to Trump is enough to move the market.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Much of the trading on Wall Street isn’t done by humans, and what remains of human trades are increasingly influenced by automatic tools. These tools and algorithms aren’t aware of context, they base their trades on vibes, basically. They tap various news sources, social media posts, etc for signals that indicate a market direction.

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Also, a lot of trades are based on what you're expecting other people to do. If everyone trades that way then nobody is trading based on reality.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 hours ago

Traders react to what they think is going to happen, not what is currently happening. Also they usually do not trade as emotionally, but rather based on processed information.
It becomes clear that this war is going to last and oil supplies will be further delayed, lowering economical prospects worldwide, which causes the market to react. A volatile market also creates some opportunities for profit as traders can gain both when the market value increases and decreases, depending on how they are trading (although it also increases risk). If you are skeptical, market manipulation is also a possibility as Trump administration is already being investigated for this.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Wait…rich people go on their phones on the bog too?

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Based on his old twitter habits, I assume every communication Trump puts out is sent while he's taking a shit

[–] prex@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Its a statistical certainty.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 6 hours ago

He's full of shit all the time, so that tracks.