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I despise this line of thinking. What, shoot an ICE officer? Then what? Explain it to me like I was 5.
You would have to have a national movement simultaneously to have any effect, and we can’t even get people to coordinate on voting.
Then the 2A is obsolete and needs to be amended out. At least the gun violence issue will see some positive.
I doubt it will be nationally coordinated. If it really got rolling it would probably look more like The Troubles but scattered across cities, some more violent than others. The biggest hurdle is that it’s not just civilians vs ICE, it’s ICE, cops, and all the Rittenhouse wannabes that assume they’ll get a pass.
But really, what’s going to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back? Blatant election interference? Losing control of Congress but just ignoring it? Running for a third term, or simply refusing to leave office even if impeached or when the term expires?Democracy only works if everyone agrees to play by the rules and let go of power when the voters decide or the time comes. We’ve never had a situation where we might have to forcibly remove someone with that much power and influence that says “fuck your democracy”.
It’ll be a lot of John Browns until city/state leaders start siding with the people in their districts and at that point we’re on the brink of secession and civil war.
Precisely my point, it will look a lot like The Troubles. The major difference is now the government has mass surveillance making it nearly impossible to carry out a guerrilla campaign.
For example, in a 1990s world, Luigi Mangione would never have been arrested. But we have a government who literally is capable of tracking every person through the global camera network, or through cell phone tower connections, or even random comments on social media.
And that’s before the authoritarian capture of the media cycle and social apps. The propaganda is intense these days.
All these factors make it excruciatingly difficult for a spark to light the fire, so to speak.
Every movement starts somewhere.
Unfortunately the 2A folks are the same folks cheering for oppression. They would be better-equipped and any murder would be pardoned by the Orangutan In Chief, or one of his lower-level cronies, as has already happened.
You can't get people to coordinate on voting because voting, with few exceptions, doesn't do shit. There are things that do shit (mutual aid, ICE watch, labor action, etc) that it'd be more realistic to build a national movement towards. Also it's possible to shoot ICE agents with only a local movement; it'd just be an insurrection and treated as such.
Wahhhhh