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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)
[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Beyond the more general point, a concrete example - if the Biden admin didn't supply unlimited bombs to Israel, they would not have lost to Trump.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean how so?

The democrats are prolific warmongers, they just think they're smarter about it than Republicans.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh I'm not arguing that, I'm just asking how that would have kept us out of this mess.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If they weren't prolific warmongers and instead did things that were actually popular at home then they would probably be seen as more trustworthy and not lost to Trump repeatedly, idk how more to spell it out for you

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe, but then they would've been buried by AIPAC money, as we've repeatedly seen. They've done plenty of positive things at home, or at least tried to, but all that gets ignored. Sure, I'd love to see a positive change, but we have to acknowledge the reality of the political landscape, and opposing Israel is political suicide with current campaign finance influences.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

They didn't oppose Israel at all and they ate complete shit anyways.

they may have 'tried' to do positive things at home, but they also spent billions arming a genocide which triggered a blockade of the red sea and disrupted supply chains. Failing to negotiate a settlement with russia didn't do energy markets any favors, the blowback from sanctions and energy prices absolutely contributed to inflation that people felt, and then blamed on democrats. 'brandonflation'

Like you can make excuses about AIPAC or whatever, but the people who felt the consequences of these wars voted accordingly. It sucks that there was no left candidate to vote for and that resulted in republicans winning. However that's also the democrats fault for not running a real primary and ignoring all the people voting uncommitted.

There were plenty of warnings, they were just ignored.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

Sure, but Democratic voters are not democratic leadership. If you have a problem with Democratic leadership, tell it to them. Voters don't benefit from Democrats losing to Republicans.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 minutes ago

I actually spent a lot of time trying to communicate just that to my democratic representative, along with hundreds of other constituents. 'Democratic leadership' was completely unresponsive.

At this point I'm not going to waste more of my time talking to people with no interest in listening.

Voters don’t benefit from Democrats losing to Republicans.

Maybe 'democratic leadership' should fuck off (ideally forever) so that the republicans stop winning.