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America is a house on fire... the Republican party is throwing gas and fireworks at it, the Democrats have no idea how to fight a fire and are not sure if it's their job to put out the fire.
You still should vote Democrat but immediately after continue to fight for complete reform
Having said that and witnessing American's reaction to their house being set on fire was basically nothing, I am not holding my breath they won't re-elect republicans and give them a bigger gas canister to finish the job
Democrats are watching it burn and enjoying the show, while pretending to care by writing strongly worded letters and slamming social media posts, so that when the time comes, they can take over the government and do nothing to improve things, because they serve the same billionaire overlords pushing fascism.
Sure... but after decades of apathy, those are the only choices Americans have left. So they either die with the republicans or buy a bit of time with the democrats while they get out of this emergency
As I said, they are likely to do nothing so America is basically over
Lol what? Maybe in electoral politics, but that's just a testament to the fact that we have no chance of being saved through that route.
Best outcome for the human species tbf.
James Baldwin, 1984
What have Americans done during this time?
To me, this is the problem... it's not "time"... it's that Americans seem to expect someone else will take the risk, pay the cost and do the hard work for them
Currently every excuse Americans seem to put up revolves around the idea they will not act unless someone else provides them with a solution that is:
risk free
cost nothing
immediately effective
permanent
solved ALL problems and corollaries
will give them 100% of the credit
Anything not marking ALL those boxes, they are not willing to do and would rather continue their (not-so) slow decline forever
Liberals do what liberals have always done. They want leftists to do the actual hard work, the grunt work to getting politicians off the ground and then they can ride our coattails as if they have supported us the entire time.
100 vote for the best candidate, but don't let that distract you into thinking that's enough. It's barely enough to turn things around. It's less than the bare minimum to fix your country.
You need to threaten the money to get any improvements through
Reform is a path to failure.
so what's the solution?
The solution is breaking Free of the oligarchy and supporting the candidates that represent the working class in government break free of the lesser evil bullshit that does not exist. Break Free of the false dichotomies that the only option is Democrats despite the fact decades show that they are not helping
There are literally 2 parties on the ballots.
Your solution is to vote for a third party that does not exist?... if so, your solution is less than useless
maybe on your ballot there are only two. but not me.
I'm not USian... do you actually get the possibility of choosing something NOT republican or democrat?
depending on the jurisdiction, and the race, and a concept called "ballot access", yes.
Ok, so for the vast majority of people, not an option... this has been a productive discussion
as i said, it depends. most people had 3 to 6 options for president.
as I said, it is clear these are not true options...
people really could have voted for any of them. we can even write in candidates. the fact that so many did not is not evidence that those people couldn't have.
From the outside perspective, there is one party on the ballot. They take money from the same super Pacs, from the same Ceos, from the same lobbyists, from the same bankers, for the same end game
so some magical non-existent party is your solution?
If Democrats didn't keep suing to get 3rd party candidates off the ballot, didn't restrict ballot access as tightly as they do, we would have existent 3rd party solutions. The very people you support are the ones that are prohibiting choice.
What a meaningless word salad. Give concrete steps. Go.
"Show me how to do revolution"
Or you could educate yourself? Not that it's a serious question from you anyway, obviously.
I'll give you a first step: grow food and feed your neighbors. Figure it out from there on your own.
Ah gotcha. I gotta figure it out for you. We'll get back to me when you have strategy, coalitions, anything. Right now it seems we have a collection of edge lord teenagers on Lemmy wearing che Guevara shirts.
You have to figure it out for you, we're doing alright out where I am lol
At least I get to be a teenager at 30, that's some consolation I suppose?
I mean...you keep confirming what I assumed to be true. There is no plan. No plan to build political power. No plan to build coalitions. Nothing. Just posting feel good diatribes on Lemmy from your iPhone. You want me to grow a vegetable garden? That's it? Cool.
Political power starts from the bottom.
I'm on like a 10 year old laptop lol
Yes, I want you to grow a vegetable garden. I also want you to try LSD and magic mushrooms.
Sure. I love these empty platitudes. They feel good on paper, don't they? I too am growing a vegetable garden. Let's jerk each other off while we read some leninist theory. Cool cool. I know that's about as much lefties can get done anyway.
Did you drop acid yet? Usually people who do are either less annoying or at least annoying in a different way, so I'm guessing not.
Also I've never read Lenin or Marx or any theory really (yet), I just worked warehouse and temp and other shit jobs so I got first-hand experience. You're really really bad at this whole "trying to read my character and make pointed comments" thing you're doing. Like one of the worst I've ever seen. You landed zero out of three so far.
No, I just get tired of sanctimonious lefties telling us to "grow vegetable gardens" because "power is built from the ground up" or whatever other empty vacuous platitudes they fellate each other with day in and out. It's so fake
You were so bad at taking stabs in the dark that you just had to quote me verbatim in an attempt to be insulting lol
Take that acid, it's a prescription at this point.
Same old same old... More self aggrandizing lecturing. Lefties are only good for one thing: fellating each other 24/7. Get back to me when the revolution starts.
They have no solutions, only criticism.
The solution is to get the fuck off the Internet and het involved. Go to caucuses, vote in primaries for progressive candidates like I did. I didn't get selected as a state delegate but at least I was there caucusing for the most progressive candidates available.
This defeatist talk is cowardly.
Projection
The talk of cowards is not having the balls to do what's right and could keep capitulating for those that are causing the problems that we're experiencing.
Do what's right? Can you elaborate on what that is?
Democrats are the ones providing the gas
Never mind that they voted to continue funding ICE every single year they were in power,
never mind that they did nothing to codify abortion / LGBT protections when they had a supermajority under Obama,
never mind that their so-called "progressives" like AOC vote to arm an apartheid ethnostate recognized by a multitude of international human rights organizations as committing genocide,
I'm going to downvote you because what you're saying makes me sad