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[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 50 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Windows 11 is not based on a single unified UI framework. Instead, it uses a mix of legacy Win32 components, UWP elements, modern WinUI layers, and web-based technologies like WebView2 and React.

I am reading this as MMC snap-ins and control panel. There is no other alternative to manage these settings outside of PowerShell.

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time? Sometimes I would like to be in Windows update, power settings, Ethernet settings, and printer settings all at once.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 28 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

I hate how the settings app is taking over control panel entries to make them worse and show me the original control panel window after going down 3 levels because the stupid fucks can't design UI for shit.

Thankfully, you can still get to a lot of them if you know the name of the control panel applet.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Want to see the advanced settings for a network adapter?

Good luck finding it, fucko

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Ncpa.cpl > right click > properties and go from there is my main method.

Otherwise, Win+X > G (devmgmt.msc) and look at the network adapter in device manager

Other than the win+x chord, that works on just about every version I have to touch

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I solved the issue by switching to Linux years ago lol. I just recently had this frustration happen at work

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Heh, I'm a windows sysadmin, so I use them often enough to know it from memory. I'm almost entirely Linux at home these days as well

[–] Haquer@lemmy.today 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fighting with their shitty "new" UI trying to find the old Sound UI to fix an issue that their new UI doesn't even have a toggle for really chapped my ass.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

This bullshit right here is what finally pushed me over the edge and into the warm embrace of a penguin.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Apparently there's a ton of CBT involved in doing anything in the new Settings app, so it makes sense to only bring over the things you absolutely have to and then send people to the old control panel for the rest.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Computer based training? Cognitive behavior therapy? Cock and ball torture?

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Cock and ball torture?

That's probably UX designers fetish

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

That last one.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Like windows 2000 to XP or Vista to 7... 10 to 11

The eternal enshitification...

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Windows 7 was IMO decent. Didn't deviate too much from the old one, and you could still reconfigure it to have same UI style as Windows XP.

Now if you want similar UI get yourself Linux with KDE desktop

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Vista to 7

enshitification

Lol, lmao even

7 was better than vista in just about every way.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

That's the thing... 7 is Vista. Just with a new UI.

Windows 2000 is XP. XP just has a new interface. 7 and XP are for consumers. 2000 and Vista are more like server editions (even the pro versions.)

Vista has Aero but also the classic server(windows NT/2000) UI. Even modern server versions have essentially the same classic control panels. And server versions don't have all the extra bullshit(7 wasn't so bad yet, but 10 and 11 are). That's why I prefer to run Windows server as my desktop.

What made Vista/7 great were the under the hood(kernel) improvements, particularly to the threading model. They made safe handling non-negotiable. This retroactively fixed countless programs and improved overall system stability significantly.

There's really no other major differences between Vista and 7 besides aesthetics(the shell.)

[–] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Win98 good

Windows ME bad

WindowsXP good

Vista bad

Win7 good (maybe peak)

Win8 bad

Win10 OK?

Win11 bad

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I've heard Windows ME bad, but I've almost never heard someone call Windows 2000 bad

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In an OS literally named "Windows " lol

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sparta@piefed.ca 2 points 16 hours ago

MacroHard Doors. When one door closes, you're locked in. Why? Cause fuck you, that's why.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

They decided it because there are so many duplicate Settings pages controlling the same thing.

There are over 12 different places to change USB power save settings

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Insert XKCD one more standard.

I'm all for revamping controls, but don't make crappier less effective ones.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Easily propagated with windows messaging apis.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago

That requires work for every single page.

They clearly would rather not

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Also, what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft engineers were worried that people missed the joys of MS-DOS and having only one application running at once. Next up, will be the return of base memory versus expanded memory versus extended memory. This ends when they devolve Windows to prove Bill Gates right that 640kB should be enough memory for anyone.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

I've got my autoexec.bat and config.sys ready to go.

what idiot decided that only one settings window is allowed open at one time?

Microsoft's army of macbook-using UI "designers" who have to justify their salary so they make up shit nobody wants