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[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 129 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names will make similar statements.

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I also wonder whether or not grapheneos, or open source Linux OSs in general, will face any repercussions for failing to comply to these regulations due to the relatively low user count.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 59 points 1 month ago (46 children)

Hate to say it but systemd, the init system of most Linux distros, already has PRs with maintainer backing to implement DoB recording.

Some people can't kneel fast enough.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The self-important creator of Systemd has personally blocked that PR, if I'm hearing correctly, which would suggest he or his employer Microsoft is all in on it.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

It's an optional field in the userdb JSON object. It's not a policy engine, not an API for apps. We just define the field, so that it's standardized iff people want to store the date there, but it's entirely optional.

"I'm not picking a side" and "this future proofs standardization" is of little comfort, that is seriously suspect. I ought to look to alternatives to SystemD(odge the issue failed).

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So in other words, "Sure we built the people-crushing machines, but we didn't wire them up or turn them on."

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

IBM, is that you?

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I was shocked it listed LMDE but it's a very old version (Linux Mint Debian Edition 2).

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

SystemDOGE. It is just a matter of time before Big Balls exfiltrates our Linux data.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

He left MS in January

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Ugh of course. Thanks for pointing that out

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

That has already been closed

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Maybe this'll take the shine off that wunderkinder mess and people will finally be free to choose something more reliable. I love how RH pushed this beta software so hard and my reboots are now just shite -- unreliable and occasionally ridiculously delayed.

I'll be glad to see the back of that metastatic shitball.

[–] yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

DoB recording, and ID age verification, are two different things though.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 14 points 1 month ago

My OS has never needed to know my DoB before. What's it gonna do, make me a cake?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, they're the same in this context.

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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

They can simply say on their download pages that residents of Brazil and California are not allowed to use their OS.

[–] sphericalcube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

I imagine people behind this law are pretty interested in this small but powerful user base. I would just boldly assume that a lot of people responsible for independent software and privacy advocates are using Linux etc. So its a interesting user base for sure. But regulating open source software luckily is pretty much impossible and they wont give up their(our) privacy without a fight. Also, we will see how much the user base will grow when these regulations get tighter.

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification

EDIT
I recommend going to Ageless Linux's site and reading up on their take on the whole issue. They clearly illustrate how poorly thought out the California law is.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago

I think this might be the first and only time I'll ever see Omarchy getting upvotes on this site.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification

The systemd dude, ever so flexible as long as the request does not come from actual users, is already working on adding this into core components, though.

[–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Systemd is open source so it can be forked to have features removed.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what Devuan does.
Slackware hasn't adopted it (yet?).
Gentoo took the sane approach and gives their users choice of init system.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Genuine question:

is Graphene a "big name"? They talk a big game and are probably one of the biggest alternative phone OSes but all results I can find are putting them at 250k users and less than 2% of the Android market share.

But, more importantly: Do they at all care about US government contracts? Red Had have RHEL. ubuntu have whatever they call their premium OS for enterprise users. Google and Apple are obvious.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Big name for government backed hacking tools to list them separately on supported devices / OS cause it's more secure.

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

GrapheneOS has a deal with a hardware manufacturer, Motorola. I'd consider this refusal to be a big deal on those grounds alone

[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Frankly I think they are the largest os vendor that is going to take a principled stance on this.

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