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The surviving members of the Epstein community want to know for sure they are chatting with children when they pick their next targets.
I just ordered a (refurbished) pixel 9 pro because of the possibility of graphene.
Otoh everything here requires a phone app to confirm every action...
Any suggestions where to purchase one where I wont be giving my money to either Google nor Amazon? (I'm in the US btw)
I buy mine third party refurbished off of Newegg.
That good enough?
Sure. https://www.backmarket.fr/ is a great place to start.
Found a good deal on a 9 Pro XL and ordered!! Thanks.
I'm in the US btw
Ah well why didn't you say so.
In that case, you're just fucked.
They have partnered with motorola too right? Basedbasedbasedbased
If the US government bans Graphene, Motorola will drop them in 1/1000th of a heartbeat.
The rest of the planet may have something to say on that front. There IS more to the world than naziland.
Yes, but the US is a huge, profitable market. And companies will bend over backwards to appease Nazis so long as it's more profitable to do so than not.
Within the US we have issues with all the US History books being written to comply with Texas's "slavery was actually good for black people" bullshit because Texas is such a big market and everybody wants in on it.
Not for long.
Fuck the usa
Do you think Motorola would lock their bootloader or only stop selling the a phone pre-installed with graphene?
How does the government ban an os? Can't is a strong word, but I don't see that happening. It's a Canadian based foundation, not a Chinese or Russian company where they could argue national security in the same way they did with Huawei or TikTok.
It's more likely a federal os-level age verification law gets passed and grapheneOS compromises or backs out out of the US market.
GrapheneOS is not a company doing business. If they're banned, that just means Motorola can't sell pre-installed phones, but that doesn't change anything about the phone compatibility with GOS. You'll have to install it yourself, just like today.
as it should be
"If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it."
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
They can just sell their normal phone. As long as the user is able to run the installer it doesn't really matter.
During prohibition era, there was a brick of dried grapes being sold as a nutrition supplement or something like that, but it had a "warning" sticker attached saying specifically not to dissolve it in a specific quantity of water, and if that were to happen, do not let a specific quantity of yeast to fall in it, and especially not to let it sit for 6 weeks, or else you might end up with wine, which is forbidden!
I can see a cheeky sort of company selling a phone with a little warning label attached to it.....
Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.
Motorola phones will have both Graphene and Android.
That's great. But sounds like the only phone they going to get is Motorola. And if us gov going to pressure motorola into compliance? Then what?
It's a nonprofit organisation. They don't really need to be the default OS in any device, people can install it themselves, which is how most people get GrapheneOS already anyway.
I JUST put together that the moto partnership means "buying a phone loaded with gOS" not "moto is working with gOS to ensure it runs smoothly on their hardware". I was excited before but that is awesome
It's not a federal law right now. It's CA afaik. So Motorola could sell non-grapheneos phones there (and people could just install later).
I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names will make similar statements.
Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification
EDIT
I recommend going to Ageless Linux's site and reading up on their take on the whole issue. They clearly illustrate how poorly thought out the California law is.
- Ageless Linux - https://agelesslinux.org/index.html
- Omarchy Linux - https://omarchy.org/
- Adenix GNU/Linux - https://www.adenixgnulinux.org/
- Artix Linux - https://artixlinux.org/
Good. Put that energy into a moderate parental control education fund or something. The ID gating the net is only for control.
I'm gonna have to replace my phone soon since it doesn't receive security updates any more and I was thinking of going for GrapheneOS. What do you guys think about getting a Pixel 10 for that purpose? My second choice would be an iPhone but it's both a lot more expensive and also less privacy respecting.
I was also considering a Fairphone but despite rating the repariability highly, there were too many other cons to the device.
I'd concur with the other commenters here and recommend getting a second hand Pixel device. I was a lifelong iOS user until they walked back their end-to-end encryption, jumped ship to using a second hand Pixel 8 Pro I got on eBay, installed GrapheneOS immediately, never even experienced stock Android. After a bit of an adjustment period, I'm very happy with my choice.
Got a Pixel 8a, i love it. Its fast, clean and customizable the phones have good technical specs and price/value for the a series is great.
In one year i only had two complications. One App i use hates the sandboxing and is lagging/freezing. I once had a broken update that bricked the phone until i sideloaded a newer update from pc. But its much less compromises / work then using a linux phone.