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[–] bonn2@lemmy.zip 129 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

I was wondering when I would see this headline. I wonder if any other big names will make similar statements.

[–] kabe@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I also wonder whether or not grapheneos, or open source Linux OSs in general, will face any repercussions for failing to comply to these regulations due to the relatively low user count.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 59 points 3 weeks ago (48 children)

Hate to say it but systemd, the init system of most Linux distros, already has PRs with maintainer backing to implement DoB recording.

Some people can't kneel fast enough.

[–] portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The self-important creator of Systemd has personally blocked that PR, if I'm hearing correctly, which would suggest he or his employer Microsoft is all in on it.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

It's an optional field in the userdb JSON object. It's not a policy engine, not an API for apps. We just define the field, so that it's standardized iff people want to store the date there, but it's entirely optional.

"I'm not picking a side" and "this future proofs standardization" is of little comfort, that is seriously suspect. I ought to look to alternatives to SystemD(odge the issue failed).

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So in other words, "Sure we built the people-crushing machines, but we didn't wire them up or turn them on."

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

He left MS in January

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

That has already been closed

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[–] TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 44 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

Linux Distros (so far) Refusing Age Verification

EDIT
I recommend going to Ageless Linux's site and reading up on their take on the whole issue. They clearly illustrate how poorly thought out the California law is.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

I think this might be the first and only time I'll ever see Omarchy getting upvotes on this site.

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[–] voluble@lemmy.ca 123 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

"If GrapheneOS devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations, so be it."

Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 69 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

They can just sell their normal phone. As long as the user is able to run the installer it doesn't really matter.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

During prohibition era, there was a brick of dried grapes being sold as a nutrition supplement or something like that, but it had a "warning" sticker attached saying specifically not to dissolve it in a specific quantity of water, and if that were to happen, do not let a specific quantity of yeast to fall in it, and especially not to let it sit for 6 weeks, or else you might end up with wine, which is forbidden!

I can see a cheeky sort of company selling a phone with a little warning label attached to it.....

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[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol. The US is not the only market.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 26 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

And the US isn't the only place pulling this shit.

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Imagine if California then declared a ban on the sale of GrapheneOS compatible phones.

would be fun to see.

[–] ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Wonder if Motorola feels the same way.

Motorola phones will have both Graphene and Android.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Good. Put that energy into a moderate parental control education fund or something. The ID gating the net is only for control.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 39 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Now if only GrapheneOS was easy to install on cheap Android devices.

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 40 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They have reached a deal with Motorola, so hopefully there will be more options soon. You can get we used pixels pretty cheap though, and the installation process is very easy.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

I was wondering how this stance will impact that deal. A large company like Motorola would typically seek to comply with laws such as these

[–] just2look@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm hoping they already had the discussion with Motorola about it. I'm assuming Motorola wouldn't be on the hook legally since Graphene is the OS provider. I could be wrong though.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, hopefully worst case, Motorola just doesn't ship them with Graphene (which could be a security risk anyway). Then they'd be off the hook.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

In the worst case it will just be Motorola shipping their base android version with verification and then just flashing grapheme over it. Just the way it currently works with pixels.

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[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Grapheneos is surprisingly the most easy OS to install... The issue is most phone manufacturer's dont meet Grapheneos its standards.

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[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Cheap android devices don't have the proper security hardware. Hopefully the Motorola phone is cheaper than a pixel though. Used pixels are also pretty cheap, all things considered.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago

It's about time I flash that onto my pixel 6 pro.

[–] eru@mouse.chitanda.moe 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

this is why its a poggers operating system

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[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago

Good boys !

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago

This is the only correct response. Middle finger.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They have partnered with motorola too right? Basedbasedbasedbased

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

If the US government bans Graphene, Motorola will drop them in 1/1000th of a heartbeat.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

The rest of the planet may have something to say on that front. There IS more to the world than naziland.

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[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 13 points 3 weeks ago

The surviving members of the Epstein community want to know for sure they are chatting with children when they pick their next targets.

[–] versionc@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

I'm gonna have to replace my phone soon since it doesn't receive security updates any more and I was thinking of going for GrapheneOS. What do you guys think about getting a Pixel 10 for that purpose? My second choice would be an iPhone but it's both a lot more expensive and also less privacy respecting.

I was also considering a Fairphone but despite rating the repariability highly, there were too many other cons to the device.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

CA's law is "per child". I guarantee lawyers are foaming at the mouth to claim every child in CA was hurt so they can line their pockets. CA's public protection laws seem to be for the purposes of enriching lawyers. I'd love to see how many class action suits would get filed if lawyer fees were put under a hard cap.

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