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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 54 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

And here I was thinking these blow-and-go contraptions were self contained. I should have known better.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

They want to be able to remotely disable vehicles, but in the process have made us vulnerable to all sophisticated actors to do so. Our leaders have their priorities all screwed up.

[–] teft@piefed.social 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Once again proving backdoors are fucking idiotic.

[–] Archr@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure that I would really agree that these are backdoor. Since disabling the vehicle remotely is kinda the express intention of this device. Just a consequence of how they designed them to not be circumvented by the operator.

[–] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 minutes ago

Why is remote access the intention? Should the device not verify the alchohol % locally and then mechanically allow the car to star or not? What part of that needs any form of remote oversight?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Since disabling the vehicle remotely is kinda the express intention of this device

Uhhh nope, there's no reason for a remote connection.

Interlocks are for people who have had a DUI, by your logic ankle monitors should not be able to be accessed remotely.

Don't break the law If you don't want to be monitored by the state.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It makes sense - a self-contained device can be circumvented. A connected solution is much, much harder to fool

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Please explain further because I do not believe that.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

Someone knowledgeable enough could tamper with the local equipment to get it to give false negatives, or always pass regardless of blood alcohol content. If it doesn't phone home, the company (or the court) doesn't know it's been tampered with.

This is all theoretical, I know nothing about this tech.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

If it knows it's been tampered with, it doesn't need to phone home, it can be disabled locally...

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

If somebody is good enough to tamper with the part that checks for BAC, why not also tamper with the part that phones home? Would they even need to?

[–] Archr@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The device doesn't just phone home while driving. It does it constantly. It's likely that any tampering would alert the vendor and by proxy the court.

[–] bladerunnerspider@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

It could phone home regularly without the ability to receive command to disable the car. Sounds like lazy enforcement.

[–] teft@piefed.social 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I agree with you in principle but you could just have the person show up once a week for tamper checking. Those interlock devices are punishment for DUI/DWI so making the user show up once a week wouldn’t be too harsh, imo.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Showing up once a week isn't a problem if it's only a handful of people going to the same place.

However, when you have a lot of people on this device in a small area, you'll have to ask them to go farther and farther away. Or else you're going to outsource who is checking on the device, and that's going to start driving up the price for this service.

[–] teft@piefed.social 0 points 11 hours ago

According to some stats I found there were about 350k interlock devices in use in the entire US in 2016. That's a tiny fraction of the amount of drivers we have. Unless they're all concentrated in the same spot and have tripled or more in numbers this isn't going to be a problem in a population of 350 million.