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Mother and child held in notorious Rio Grande Valley detention centre despite presenting visa, family says

A Canadian mother and her seven-year-old daughter, who has autism, have been detained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in Texas since Saturday, family members have said.

Relatives of Tania Warner and her daughter Ayla Lucas say they were detained unlawfully. They are uncertain about what problem ICE found with their immigration paperwork.

Tania Warner and her daughter are both Canadians, with Warner originally from British Columbia. The Canadian broadcaster CTV News reported that they are being held at the notorious Rio Grande Valley Central processing centre in McAllen, Texas.

Warner, who is said to have moved to the US five years ago, lives in Kingsville, Texas, with her husband, Edward Warner, a US citizen.

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[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

How much do you want to bet that her husband voted for Trump? She probably did too.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You don't know that.

This woman and her daughter are going through a terrible time right now and you want to blame her instead of our fascist government. Why?

Why are you insisting on placing blame on this woman?

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know what "how much do you want to bet" implies? Should I imply it harder? Do you need your rhetorical question answered? I'm just curious.

Seriously though, of course I don't know, but I do have a real funny intuition about this sort of thing that works in some really interesting ways. Sometimes it's wrong, granted, but a lot of the time it's right.

There's just something about the level of "surprise" they seem to be exhibiting in their comments about what happened to them. I feel like people who are more aware of what ICE is and has been doing are likely going to sound somewhat less surprised than the people who voted for it thinking it would only happen to brown people and not to them.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think their surprise at being detained is because she had a valid work permit and visa.

Not everyone in Texas is MAGA.

The rush for people to blame the woman in this story reeks of something else to me.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Does it reek of anger? Is that the something else? Because I'm pretty fucking angry about what ICE is doing, and I find it pretty hard to believe that any people (who have some level of consciousness and aren't MAGA) in Texas, literally a border state with the second highest number of immigrants in the entire US, don't have any clue that ICE is regularly arresting people who have valid work permits and visa, were the first few hundred thousand not a clue?

In my experience, the people who are surprised about this tend to be the people who knew it was happening (how can you NOT know it's happening at this point?) but just never thought it would actually happen to them.

Likewise, the surprise here reeks of something else to me. The surprise reeks of "How could this happen to me? I'm white"

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I’m pretty fucking aware of what ICE has been doing and I would still express surprise and shock if my spouse was detained at a checkpoint on the way home from a baby shower.

The fact that you’re looking to blame the victims here instead of the government is interesting.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

I can be very angry at and blame multiple groups at the same time. I'm multitasking.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 1 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

You're dogpiling on the woman in this story.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca -1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

And you've decided that's unfair. Good thing she has white knights like you. She'll be safe. Unlike all the brown people.

[–] sneakypersimmon@lemmy.today 2 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

You've decided the victim in this story deserves blame with zero evidence and I'm calling you out for it. That's it.

She's a victim the same way "all the brown people" are and we shouldn't be blaming them. We should be pushing back against the fascist government committing these acts.