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do i pass? (quokk.au)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by erin@quokk.au to c/mtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

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sometimes dysphoric about face idk but sometimes not
8 days and im roungly a year on HRT

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[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In general yes, though most of your photos are from the same angle which makes it hard to actually tell.

The last photo is clocky imo (probably from the way the shadows lay on your face?) - but still androgynous boy at worst (more ambiguous than obviously male, if that makes sense).

The other photos lean more fem for me - if I try to see a boy I can sorta make my brain do that, but what I see by default is a girl (maybe partially because the t-shirt primes me to see that, but your skin is also soft, there's no beard shadow, etc.).

(Take this all with a grain of salt, not everyone will be able to see you like I can - I also have the brainworms. Just like for you, gender dysphoria warps my perception of myself and others.)

[–] erin@quokk.au 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

some other, also cool i doesnt have adam apple also as full body - i definitly pass ~162 cm and overall body is ok also i never grew facial hair(even no body hair at all) (how hard it was been to get hrt at 15 and convert transphobic mom to normal)

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[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I had my partner (who is cis-sexual) look at these photos, and she thought these two photos looked like a boy, but maybe trans-masculine was her guess. Then I showed her your first photos and she saw a girl. She didn't realize the two sets of photos were of the same person (i.e. she didn't think you were the same person in these two later photos as the person in the first photos in your OP) - just to give you a sense of how subtle gender cues like hair style, style of dress, etc. can radically influence the way you are gendered.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Thanks for the additional photos - I would say you're solidly androgynous i.e. your sex is ambiguous. The short hair and brown shirt (and the picture where you jut your chin up & out) give cultural cues that you're a boy. How your voice sounds would probably push someone one way or another, and how you dress will change how you are perceived. I can mostly see a girl in your first photos, and mostly a boy in these latter photos.

I would suggest growing out your hair so it looks more feminine, ensuring your voice is feminine, and ensuring you keep testosterone thoroughly suppressed (and at minimum maybe look to eventually get an orchiectomy to guarantee a future free from the threat of testosterone).

You're doing great, and the fact you have avoided facial hair is huge. Protect yourself from male puberty - it is expensive to undo some of the effects, and impossible to undo other effects (like changes to your voice).

[–] erin@quokk.au 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

also if i somehow gain money for ffs in future which bones are clocky and i need to shave

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

oh, I don't have that level of expertise, lol - usually I think FFS involves changing the bones around the eyes, the eyebrow ridge, the jaw, and might include changes to hairline (I wish I could get my hairline fixed, ugh), and sometimes a nose job. The nose is technically aesthetic, but it's still fair that it's included in FFS because some women have noses that cause dysphoria because of how they developed under the presence of androgens (I hate my nose, tbh).

Because you seem to have avoided male puberty, I think your face is going to pass long-term and you definitely won't need FFS. I don't notice a jutting eyebrow ridge or anything. Your chin and jaw are within cis female ranges I think.

But I'm not an expert, though. Just seems to me like your face is good enough for passing, as evidenced by how well you pass in some of your photos already.

[–] erin@quokk.au 1 points 1 hour ago

also i look up at photos pre-puberty puberty start

my skull isnt changed at all

even think im look better now than boy pre puberty

only diffrence i see now that i weight gained and grow up a little bit

so i really avoided male puberty coool, if i didnt get estro one year ago i think i ended with $uic*de because i was VERY DYSPHORIC in deep depression, and happy now (ignore brainworms im really happy)

[–] erin@quokk.au 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

yea my voice is naturally girly
testosterone are near zero stable for 1yr
estradiol - sometimes is waaay too high, ~200pg now, last bloodtest said 469 pg and i lowered back (should be 150+ pg, even 120 pg at lowest give me strong T suppression 0.64 nmol)

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dont ask me why i cut hair but short also okay for now
i want to grow out to chest and colour to idk what color

on reddit ive never got detailed answer imstead i will got depressing "you re valid" "4tranner" (they think are only 4tran dysphoric about every mm l)

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

those last three photos all I can see is a girl tbh, maybe the first photo has some androgynous qualities, but still totally see a girl (the hair really helps feminize the context)

I definitely think growing the hair out, and taking care of it & styling it in a feminine way will significantly help passing.

and yeah, I don't know why trans communities struggle so much with honest feedback about passing; I'm not going to pretend my feedback or perspective is objective or how everyone will see you - I think we should all acknowledge that different people will see you different ways.

But maybe I'm just a brain-wormed 4tranner 🙃

Also, saying you're valid in response to asking if you pass is so disturbing, like - non-passing people are valid too, it just has nothing to do with the context.