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This stream highlight cuts this out but the orginal Japanese dialogue is uh lets just say much more direct and proud about this then you would think. catgirl-disgust

Writing like this is making me genuinely worried about the LeonxSherry lathing from creeps. kobeni-sweat

Edit: apparently Pat and woolie also talked about this

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The question isn't just about characters needing to be likeable or a good person (that is blatantly not the case and there are like 4 different unrepentant murderers on the roster already), but how the incestuous relationship and Alex more broadly are being represented.

This argument is tacitly doing the sort of thing people do all the time when defending heinous shit in anime, where if they think something is bad (or are pretending they do), then they just impose their values (or their audience's values) on the work and gloss over whether the Bad Thing is truly being portrayed in a critical manner or not. I've seen lots of people talk about this or that manga/anime that depicts heinous shit because the heinous shit appeals to certain people and they just ignore the part where it's trying to appeal to people, or accuse you of it appealing to you if you point out this obvious intention. I've seen it repeatedly, even on this site, because people would rather engage in question-begging and slinging absurd accusations to prevent their favorite slop receiving criticism, though to be clear I don't think that's your motivation here.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

but how the incestuous relationship and Alex more broadly are being represented.

Aren't all the stories in Street Fighter are presented from the POV of that character. To Alex, this is a glorious wonderful happy ending where he has repented for his sins and become a good dude. That is the story in his head. This is Alex's happy ending.

Like, fine I can see your point that the ONLY depiction of it currently is this positive one. But I am otherwise fine with it existing if it is developed further with others criticising it.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago

Aren't all the stories in Street Fighter are presented from the POV of that character. To Alex, this is a glorious wonderful happy ending where he has repented for his sins and become a good dude. That is the story in his head. This is Alex's happy ending.

This is not a good argument, partly because the POV doesn't just warp reality like Pyro-Vision, even if it lends itself to understanding the terms they see things in, meaning evil things can still look evil (e.g. many Bison and Akuma endings), and partly because even when you win you don't necessarily get a happy ending (e.g. Urien in Third Strike, where he gets thwarted by his brother), and it sometimes even involves the character realizing they were wrong and having a change of heart (e.g. Remy in Third Strike, where he finally abandons his Mr. Freeze complex).

The story mode endings aren't "here's a world where the character is right," or even always "here's a world where the character achieves their goals," just something along the lines of "here's a world where the character did as well as they could have," which might still be an obviously terrible outcome either because of evil intentions or relative incompetence.

Like, fine I can see your point that the ONLY depiction of it currently is this positive one. But I am otherwise fine with it existing if it is developed further with others criticising it.

Then the game in its current state, based on the information provided in this conversation, has done a decidedly bad rather than great thing, but there is a chance it will be improved later. I wouldn't hold your breath on it though, since these sorts of things often go basically untouched by the other writing in the series and by the time more is being written for Alex, this is liable to be swept under the rug.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 19 hours ago

people are not media-literate enough for this, certainly not gamers.

they're all "lol he's a cousin fucker" and i've only seen one person bring up the grooming dynamic.