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[–] 5715@feddit.org 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The key to happiness is having zero expectations.

I disagree. Zero expectations leads to rotting if you're down already. As I understand it, zero expectations almost equals zero trust.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Zero expectations leads to rotting if you're down already.

"Expectations" are different from "goals". One of the easiest paths to chronic unhappiness is to treat happiness as an expectation.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Happiness is fundamentally transitory and unsuitable for a goal, although setting up the circumstances for it to occur regularly isn't a bad idea. Being at peace, satisfied, not bored, and others relevant to you are much more consistent and achievable, and you only need to rely on yourself to do so (happiness is often circumstantial).

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Happiness is fundamentally transitory and unsuitable for a goal

Oh, yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to imply "don't treat happiness as an expectation; treat it as a goal!", because like you said, it's fundamentally incompatible with what a goal is. I like to consider the SMART criteria, and even though it fails all of them (except 'T' if you insist you have a deadline to be happy), it fails 'A' the hardest, because a goal as such is literally defined by how it's oriented toward taking an action. Even if you think your goal is "I will be happy by doing X today", then – as long as you think you can do X and have a plan – what you actually have is the goal "I will do X today" with the faulty, tacked-on expectation of "and that will make me feel happy".

[–] 5715@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Call me pedantic, but that's not zero expectations. I 100% agree on the happiness expectations to depression pipeline, but zero expectations to me is expecting a ROI of 0, that is expecting any effort to be wasteful.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 points 15 hours ago

expectations / reality