this post was submitted on 13 Mar 2026
138 points (69.5% liked)
Memes
55746 readers
1023 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 7 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Ah so there isn't documented cases for both, right
There are documented cases of child labor and slave labor in the US, especially in the agricultural system. The prison system in the US is a system of forced slave labor. Over 4 million kids are laboring in the US. The hatred of China is pure projection. Are either of these societies perfect? No, is China particularly bad or worse than the US, definitely not. The US and the western nations in general fuel slavery and child labor world wide in their capitalist empires.
https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2024/april/child-labor-trafficking-is-ensnaring-both-us--and-foreign-born--0.html
Nice whataboutism. Now you can either answer the question asked or abstain.
That whataboutism tells you everything you need to know about your sealioning. You live in a slave driving, child raping system and you are projecting your propagandized and racist system on others. USians and Europeans are by far the most evil people on earth and you have no right to cast stones in a glass house.
Ok, so you won't or can't answer a question. I won't bother reading your answer past the 2 first words.
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Are you answering the question
Ok, so you won’t or can’t answer a question. I won’t bother reading your answer past the 2 first words.
No, there aren’t, not credible ones, anyway. i’m sure there are Radio Free Asia pieces quoting “anonymous sources,” because that’s all they do, because RFA’s whole job is to spin anti-China slop, because they’e a component of the US military-propaganda-industrial complex.
Ah yes. There are none. And if they were, they would be lies anyways. Gotcha.
There are probably isolated incidents, but nothing on the scale of a systemic issue. Child labor isn't particularly effective to begin with.
Ah so there's nothing to discuss about the Xinjiang. Gotcha. That's an incident.
There is no systemic slavery of Uyghurs. Uyghur genocide atrocity propaganda akin to claiming that there's "white genocide" in South Africa, Christian genocide in Nigeria, or that Hamas sexually assaulted babies in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood.
In the case of Xinjiang, the area is crucial in the Belt and Road Initiative, so the west backed sepratist groups in order to destabilize the region. China responded with vocational programs and de-radicalization efforts, which the west then twisted into claims of "genocide." Nevermind that the west responds to seperatism with mass violence, and thus re-education programs focused on rehabilitation are far more humane, the tool was used both for outright violence by the west into a useful narrative to feed its own citizens.
The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report as well as (especially) China's response to it, which eclipses it in size and detail.These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, Christian nationalist and professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does. Zenz' work has been thoroughly discredited, yet is supported by western media for its utility in fearmongering. An example is lying about 8.7% of new IUDs as 80%, to back up claims of "forced sterilization," from this chart:
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Has there been mistreatment? Almost certainly to some degree, in a campaign as large as this. Is it genocide, be it cultural or outright? No, Uyghur culture is preserved and there are no mass killings.
Ok thank you, I've got what I needed. I can safely block your account for propaganda now.
You know, if you want to points the wrong doing of a state, held them all to the same standard.
Incredible, announcing that no matter how much evidence you see, you'd rather stick fingers in your ears and cover your eyes.
Would be a shame to be able to think critically.
Are you aware that the same source says exactly the opposite when it comes to forced labour in China?
No, please enlightenen me. @Cowbee@lemmy.ml posted more than one source, so you have to be specific.
As opposed to just blocking anyone who disagrees with you
Are you able to formulate a negative opinion about China? I can talk shit about USA, EU and China.
Sure. I can also hear disagreements without lunging for the block button
Why didn’t you just silently block us from the start, instead of embarrassing yourself?
I give people the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes they prove to be interesting people. And sometimes they are just monkeys trying to disguise themselves.