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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I've been to cities with nice public transit and clean streets.

I still don't like cities.

But I appreciate that if we make cities nicer and more convenient more people would choose them and they'd stop tearing up wild places.

I will not live in your cities. But I know why they must exist.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Unless you're making your own soap etc, you're still living in a society which wouldn't function without said cities. So live in them or no, you're still dependant on them.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, you could just learn to make your own soap?

It's not that hard, just a bit labour intensive at times. But if you actually hunted game you might actually have the ingredients as extra. And you could easily still have it be nice soap, by also having a garden and making simple extracts from plants like jasmine and whatnot for scents.

I'm kinda jealous about some American "homesteaders" at times, because America is just way better for that, geographically and bureaucratically than Finland. Not that I could afford it anyway but... A man can dream.

[–] dass93@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

We also have some pretty nice homesteaders in Danmark if you want to find som nearby to see. 

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I fully intend to learn to make soap and do the other things. I just hate that I'm stuck in this society for the time being.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You and me both brother. Albeit I still have this silly notion of educating others and perhaps not everything sucking as bad in the future. But that's the naive kid in me.

I'm pretty sure I could make soap. Catch a deer, process it properly, render a good measure of fat somewhere, the good white fat you scratch from the top.

Make potash; Drip water through hardwood ashes in a bucket with a filtered hole. Boil the collected brown liquid until a fresh egg floats in.

Then

Make Soap: Heat the fat until melted. Slowly stir in the potash liquid. Boil and stir until it thickens into a heavy paste (it will likely be a soft/liquid soap).

But that's just one utility item, and a daily one. All the toothpaste and other cleaning supplies as well and whatnot. Ofc you could get basics from companies which abide by your morals, if such exist.

Here's a not wholly unrelevant thing from J Draper on utube

https://youtu.be/2RxwwC3c89k?t=2m55s

It's about a large victorian households needs for servants and the timestamped bit talks of outdoor servants so like who would've hunted the game and maybe made potash idk

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] psud@aussie.zone 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

First learn to make your own sodium hydroxide. You can't get away from dependence on others, everything is more complex than it looks

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Making potash didn't seem that complex tbh.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Indeed, but it's another necessary step. Nothing is as simple as it seems. You probably need the wood plantation anyway for fuel