It will never cease to amaze how easy it is for some people to make excuses for participating in a genocide. Saying I will not be part of a genocide is itself a meaningful objective, and if you do not understand this simple truth then you're truly lost.

[–] DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I understand the pragmatics of dealing with Trump. A wise statesman picks their battles. Saying 'I will not be part of a genocide' when you can't do anything about it is hardly a meaningful objective, unless the objective is a photo op, which it appears to be in this case. In such cases, talk is useless against a madman. It rarely does anything to actually stop the genocide. But hey, if you smile for the photo op, it might convince the gullible that you are doing something.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, Trump will fuck Canada regardless of how many atrocities Canada signs up to do together. Just look at the Europeans bending over backwards for him, and all they get in return is abuse. Abandoning all your values to suck up to fascists is not pragmatism, it's debasement.

I'm frankly amazed that you don't realize just how psychopathic the whole argument that since we can't stop the genocide we might as well take part in it is. If you're not gonna draw the line at that, then you're no better than the fascists you're taking photo ops with.

[–] DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As you degrade this argument into absurdity, I can no longer accept that it is worthwhile continuing. You have no intentions of intelligent discussion.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The fact that you don't understand that participating in a genocide is immoral shows that there really is no point continuing having a discussion.