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Nope, the United States of America.
You’re responsible for who you elect.
Despite my town, my county, my state all voting strongly against the shitstain in the white house, you're right. And it's fucking embarrassing. US voters are, collectively, the worst.
Not saying there's not a bunch of maga morons fucking shit up, but if you think we have free and fair elections in the US, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Nobody cares, everyone will still associate you with this.
Sincerely: a Hungarian
I mean, what are they supposed to do now? (other than kill themselves or become a martyr)
A lot of people aren't gonna be willing to up and die for a cause, and I don't feel comfortable telling anyone who isn't willing to die potentially pointlessly that they're bad people
Another thing is that people don't seem to understand how ingrained bigotry is in America. I actually am willing to die for democracy, but I'm black and female. Me getting gunned down in the street by ICE wouldn't even make local news because Americans are trained to disacknowledge the person-hood of anyone who isn't an ablebodied cishet white man. I won't have died "for the cause", I'd have died to fill an empty hole in the ground.
Not necessarily saying that I and others aren't willing to, just that it'll be a lot more like throwing ourselves into a meatgrinder than like being hung on a cross.
I don't doubt it. Just offering a piece of factual information. If it doesn't mean anything to you, then there's not much I can do about that.
Edit: Oh right, Orbán. You're commiserating lmao. Well. Yup. Sorry, friend.
Ah yes, "Everybody from a place is as bad as the worst people from that place."
Wow, with that logic, I guess you're all Viktor Orbán. How's that feel? Fair?
I suppose attacking Iran was okay then, because everybody there is Khamenei.
Surely, we're on the road to ending global conflict and understanding each other as people now! /s
Emotionally labelling an entire people by their power-lusting "leaders" is the first step to dehumanizing each other and shooting each others' families at their whim. We can be better than this.
You've misinterpreted why they stated they are Hungarian.
They're identifying what they've experienced from interactions with another country's people as a Hungarian with Viktor Orban in charge.
I'm open to this interpretation. If that's what they were going for then I didn't mean to be too aggressive. Thanks for bringing this up. <3
The context of the entire chain is holding people accountable for what their leaders did. HK65 seems okay with that and is very much in a position to not be throwing stones if we judge others on this.
They're not throwing stones. They're identifying with the helpless predicament many people under terrible regimes feel.
HK65 would like to change Hungary, but they can't, but know people on the outside still expect they will change the system though.
The key word is "sincerely". That turns the message from a dismissal of the nuance of how democratic a system is, to an understanding that people in other nations in a sense flatten the countries internal fights between regime supporters and opponents.
So we're judging all people by the actions of their government? Cool, I'm certain Hungary is perfectly fine and innocent in all matters with never having done anything terrible.
That's not what I've said. In fact, it's exactly the opposite.
Every time something done by the government I've never voted for comes up, the whole comment section is always "kick them out of the EU“.
That would seriously fuck with my life, and I'm powerless against that sentiment. If anything, it is more than ironic that let the Hungarian government fuck around was the insane EU money granted to them in exchange for fucking up our labour laws.
I'm actually sympathetic, I'm just pointing out that most people don't tend to be.
Oh, my apologies. The amount of people blaming everyone in the USA for this instead of the ones actually responsible is a bit of a raw nerve. I try to judge people on their actions and morality.
They’ve worked fine for Republican voters, who have elected lunatics for years using them.
They’re trying real hard to take those rights away, to the point they’ll tamper with and just stop them.
Voting must have something going for it.
"Average Germans weren't Nazis!" energy
I mean, do you actually believe every German was a Nazi?
seems like you really understood the point
Lol. I didn't elect him
Unfortunately the outcome doesn’t listen to that, it lumps everyone together.
So it’s those that did otherwise who let you down. That was a majority.
I'm sure the world will be very interested in that, just as much as in who in Russia did or didn't vote for Putin.
Then "The World" is just as stupid and apathetic as U.S voters, I guess.
I mean, I'm interested in Russians who didn't vote for Putin. I'm sure I'm not the only one. I'm also interested in Germans who were against Hitler, Italians against Mussolini, etc. Fascists victimize their own populace as well as others; basic human empathy dictates that no one's victimhood is less tragic because of where they were born.
Yeah, as we all know, it's only the bad Russians who are disconnected from SWIFT.
Piss off.
Didn't you just institute age verification? Eat some more dick.
Yep, up there with killing kids in schools and buildings. Nice one seppo