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China did denounce the war in Ukraine.
As I recall it, that was a bit ambiguous.
Iirc they said that diplomatic measures should've been employed instead.
All in all, it didn't matter then and doesn't now, because they just keep this ‘neutral’ thing going and denounce this and that. The actual trade policy and such work by a completely different logic. They aren't gonna boycott the US or sever trade with them, just as they haven't with Russia.
Which is total bullshit, what diplomatic measureless were necessary or even possible? When Ukraine was absolutely peaceful, and Putin was promised that Ukraine wouldn't become a NATO member? And Putin attacked Ukraine with an argument of denazification, which is insane since Ukraine is a democracy, and their leader is Jewish! Of the 2 Russia is clearly the very Nazi like totalitarian regime.
That statement by China was for appearances only, it was hollow and completely lacked any criticism of Putin or Russia or the war crimes Russia is committing.
Which is why I don't remember China speaking against the war in any real way.
Of course there could still have been diplomatic measures, Zelensky wanted to negotiate with the Russians until the very end and Ukraine seemed to believe Putin wouldn't ultimately invade even when USA was saying they're almost certainly going to and released supporting intel.
That's not to say Russia wasn't always in the wrong since the 2013 events of course but it doesn't mean the Ukrainians weren't willing to compromise on some things in 2022 just to get some normalcy.
Obviously calling for a diplomatic solution makes no sense until AFTER the invasion.
Before that as you mention, even Zelensky didn't think the Russians would invade.
Why would China call for a diplomatic solution to something that hasn't happened yet?
It wasn't just the invasion that needed a diplomatic solution, there was after all a war already going on in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 even if it had somewhat frozen. The Russian troop concentrations were interpreted by some like Zel as just posturing in order to bring that conflict to an end through a diplomatic solution while the previous agreements had failed.
USA did promise to gorbachev about not one inch to east tho? But NATO is just expanding and expanding
I am not justifying russia, what they did was stupid and evil but talk on facts
Nope, no such promise was ever part of any formal agreement between NATO/USA and Russia.
It would also be pretty moronic, since voluntary unification of Germany was always a goal for West Germany. Which would automatically move the NATO border east.
There was possibly a promise that East Germany would not be used by NATO forces, but that agreement had nothing to do with including new member countries.
Also that agreement wasn't formal, and was definitely not meant to be binding long term.
This was said after unification of Germany
US ambassador to USSR Jack F Matlock also accepted this on TV
An ambassador simply can't make such a promise, you are being ridiculous.
My guess is you are parroting Russian propaganda, because it sounds just like it.
As I CLEARLY stated earlier, there are no official agreements to anything like that.
If there were, you should point to that, instead of what some cleaning lady may have said, which is about as valid an international agreement as some diplomat.
I didnt said they made a promise, an ambassador however saying that on TV cant be disregarded either, I never claimed it was a valid assertion by russia I am just saying things like that were said at that time, it wasnt a written agreement so I guess they expanded.
Yes, that was some great lip service.
Exactly. Just like this time.