What is "noon" or "solar noon" under DST? Solar noon is supposed to be the time when the sun is at its peak. AM and PM come from ante meridiem and post meridiem, which are basically "before the sun's peak" and "after the sun's peak". But, under DST the peak is at approx 1pm. So, will saying "I'll meet you at noon" still mean 12pm? Probably, but then "solar noon" will be 1pm but "noon" will be 12am?

If the whole reason behind considering permanent DST that they think the 9-5 schedule of office life is impossible to change? This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

That's why we have been continuing to change clocks twice a year, because apparently that's easier than changing the time children go to school.

If you're only argument is "the sun should be directly up at noon" then we are going to need a lot more time zones.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let’s have a lot more time zones then.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, let's do away with all time zones, everyone's on GMT. Noon stops meaning 12:00 and just means when the sun is directly up in your time zone.

If that means for you noon is 2AM, you start work at 11PM and are off at 7AM, usually going to bed at 1PM when it's well and dark out so be it. You don't have to change your clock when you travel, places just say "Local noon is 8PM".

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

No, let's do away with all currency, everyone's on gold. $1 stops meaning 100 cents and just means whatever the hell it does in the area you’re in.

Ask the railroads how not having time zones turned out.

[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, arguing definitions vs what's actually practical is a new one for me in the DST discussion. Just goes to show you that people would rather appear right than do what's useful.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I'm not only argument.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nobody schedules things around solar noon you psycho.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Old timey western shootouts. You shoot each other at high noon not waning noon.

DST is best T.