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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Who said nothing would change?

We currently live in a top-down system, where a handful of rich influential people decide everything. Anarchism is a bottom-up system where the people directly decide everything.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Why would I want anarchism if it would not change this?

Then not only do I have to worry about the largest state, which may or may not want to kill me and is thousands of kilometers away. But I would also have to worry about my neighbors, which I have many at less than 100m away from me. And I would also have to worry about the largest state even more because I wouldn't be in a state myself that could defend me against the largest one.

"My system is not worse than the current one because your concerns about my system exist in the current one" is not a valid argument when "concerns about my system" is way larger than the ones in the current one.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Its a bottom up system

You are thinking of Communism mate.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

But unless we kill everyone who has access to those big guns, they'll still have access to them after the system changes. I agree that a change needs to happen, but I can't really wrap my head around how we're going to stop people with city-destroying bombs, who wouldn't hesitate to use them on American soil if their lives were at risk. We either let them live, and keep their weapons, or we try to kill them and get taken out in a firestorm of mutually assured destruction. Taking about what we're going to do after we've won that battle just feels like planning a wedding before asking someone out on a date.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The ideal route to anarchist as I understand it wouldn't be taking away the weapons, it would be taking away the concepts of power. Musk's power is predicated on the idea that he owns more things ranked by percieved value than I do. That value is an agreed upon concept, enforced by the government that we participate in. If the stock market and dollar bill are replaced overnight with a barter system, his power would plumit to the value of assets he can physically provide himself.

Right now, oil executives have the power to dictate nations. If collectivly the majority of people just refuse to use cars, their power is now subject to a different scale. If enough of a given society makes this change fast enough, or change to something so rigorously coordinated that it cannot be exploited, then the power of the system fizzles and the ability to use force goes with it. How are you going to bomb a nation of hippy comunes if 90% of your soldiers are now in the comunes?

It's an interesting stance, but I don't personally buy it. It requires a level of group effort that we're not capable of. Personally, I feel a rigid and open source technocracy would be the easier option. Computers aren't subject to opinion or emotions and have been a billion times more capable than our best politicians for nearly a century.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

The same people who overwhelmingly voted this shitshow into power?